Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable

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Sujet : Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Jul 2024, 02:03:54
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:14:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 7/21/2024 2:32 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
Please note that parked cars, traffic cones, bollards, signs, speed
bumps, construction barricades, pot holes, cobblestones, flooding,
alligators, death traps, etc can be painted onto the bike path in 3D:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=3d+sidewalk+art&tbm=isch>
<https://joehill-art.com/pages/3d-pavement-art>
>
Interesting art. But one's viewpoint needs to be precisely correct, or
the work makes no visual sense.
>
http://www.templeasylum.com/2016/02/good-art-or-bad-art-it-depends-on-where-youre-standing/

True.  However, I'm told that there are some tricks that expand the
viewing angles, heights, and range.  We have some artists in Santa
Cruz that do sidewalk chalk art for events.  They're often draw
crowds.  I've seen a few where most people in the crowd seemed
satisfied with the 3D simulation.  It wasn't like one had to stand in
one place to see the effect. 

The big problem was the viewing height.  The drawings were optimized
for the range of eye heights for typical adults, which worked well.
However, the much shorter kids didn't see the effect at almost ground
level or when standing too close.  They would initially appear
confused but then shriek with joy (or fear) as the 3D image appeared.

Some videos on how it's done:
<https://www.youtube.com/@TracyLeeStum>
<https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=3d+street+art>

If you're having problems convincing the local government to install
bicycle infrastructure, perhaps virtual infrastructure in the form of
street art might be useful.  Instead of temporary chalk, paint the 3D
drawing with something more permanent. 

I did something like that many years ago when the company didn't want
to buy or rent a piece of test equipment that I needed.  I built a
life size cardboard box simulation of the equipment, complete with
photos of all side photographed from the HP catalog pages.  Some holes
for the power cord and signal cables, and it looked very much like a
bad reproduction of the equipment that I wanted.  Management would
walk by my bench and pretend not to notice.  About a month later, the
chief engineer angrily informed me that I was getting my equipment and
to never do that again.

I have no idea how the local government or the authorities might react
to doing something like that with bicycle infrastructure.  It will
probably get published by the media but beyond that, I can only guess.




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