Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable

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Sujet : Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Jul 2024, 22:07:57
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:35:23 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:

Am Mon, 22 Jul 2024 05:06:43 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:52:38 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
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Am Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:19:23 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:11:58 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:46:53 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:19:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 7/20/2024 1:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://bicycledriving.com/law/a-bicycle-safety-parable
 
 
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+1
I fought those fights against The Planners all my life. And
lost every time.
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For what it's worth. I am opposed to any "bikeway"  that is not
totally isolated from vehicular traffic and parked cars (bike lanes).
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That is completely missing the point.
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I thought one of the points was about disliking bike lanes.
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The general point was, bikes _are_ vehicular traffic and should operate
by the rules for vehicular traffic. No need for bike lanes or other
types of isolation.
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What made the guy in that article, or you, for that matter, qualified
to decide what other people should do.
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What qualifies _you_ to prohibit other people from driving a vehicle on
the road, just because that vehicle isn't powered by an internal
combustion engine or an electric motor?

I have no intention of prohibiting other people from driving a vehicle
on the road, in fact I oppose any such prohibition.

Did you really read the text linked above? I very much doubt it.
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Oh, I did read the fear mongering text, ...
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O RLY? You obviously haven't read it. If anything, it is a satirical
tirade against people who spread fear, written in the form of a parable.

Oh good grief. That article is the one spreading fear, not me. I
simply want to ride my bike where I prefer to ride it.

But perhaps it is a comprehension problem.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
20 Jul 24 * A Bicycle Safety Parable105Frank Krygowski
20 Jul 24 +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable103AMuzi
20 Jul 24 i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable102Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable101Wolfgang Strobl
21 Jul 24 i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable100Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable93AMuzi
21 Jul 24 i   i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable92Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable83Jeff Liebermann
21 Jul 24 i   i i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable82Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable81Jeff Liebermann
21 Jul 24 i   i i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable42Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i i  i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
21 Jul 24 i   i i  ii`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
24 Jul 24 i   i i  i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable5Jeff Liebermann
24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Zen Cycle
25 Jul 24 i   i i  iii`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Jeff Liebermann
24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
24 Jul 24 i   i i  ii`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
24 Jul 24 i   i i  i+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable33Frank Krygowski
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable32Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable16Frank Krygowski
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i+- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable13AMuzi
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable11Frank Krygowski
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i  +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable9AMuzi
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i    `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable7Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i     `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6John B.
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26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i       `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable4Zen Cycle
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i        `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable3AMuzi
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i  i         +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
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25 Jul 24 i   i i  i   i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
25 Jul 24 i   i i  i   i `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable11Jeff Liebermann
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i    `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable10Frank Krygowski
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i     `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable9Jeff Liebermann
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i      `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i       +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6Jeff Liebermann
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i       i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable3Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i       ii`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
27 Jul 24 i   i i  i       ii `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
27 Jul 24 i   i i  i       i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Frank Krygowski
27 Jul 24 i   i i  i       i `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i i  i       `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable38Frank Krygowski
22 Jul 24 i   i i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable37Jeff Liebermann
22 Jul 24 i   i i    +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable35Frank Krygowski
22 Jul 24 i   i i    i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable25Jeff Liebermann
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable3Catrike Ryder
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22 Jul 24 i   i i    iii `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
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22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable19Catrike Ryder
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable18John B.
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable17Jeff Liebermann
22 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i  +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable15John B.
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable13Jeff Liebermann
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   i+* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable7Jeff Liebermann
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2AMuzi
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23 Jul 24 i   i i    ii i   ii  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable3Jeff Liebermann
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22 Jul 24 i   i i    i`* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable9Catrike Ryder
22 Jul 24 i   i i    i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
22 Jul 24 i   i i    i  `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable7Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable6Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i    `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable5Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i     `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable4Frank Krygowski
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i      +- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i      `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Zen Cycle
23 Jul 24 i   i i    i       `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
23 Jul 24 i   i i    `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
21 Jul 24 i   i `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable8Frank Krygowski
21 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
21 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2Frank Krygowski
21 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Catrike Ryder
26 Jul 24 i   i  +* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable2John B.
26 Jul 24 i   i  i`- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1AMuzi
26 Jul 24 i   i  `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Zen Cycle
22 Jul 24 i   `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable5Wolfgang Strobl
22 Jul 24 i    `* Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable4Catrike Ryder
21 Jul 24 `- Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable1Wolfgang Strobl

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