Re: Some bicycle paths...

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De : funkmasterxx (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (zen cycle)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 27. Jul 2024, 13:16:56
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On 7/26/2024 9:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/26/2024 7:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/26/2024 8:03 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 04:07:04 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:21:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
I'm saying AR-style guns have no practical value in civilian hands, but
they impose serious societal harm. You agree they have no practical
value, and you demonstrate that by not owning one.
>
Why do your actions contradict your arguments?
>
<eyeroll>
>
Does the fact that Krygowski doesn't own a pickup truck mean that they
have no practical value?
>
Does the fact that most cyclists do not own a bike generator mean that
they have no practical value?
>
Simple logic seems to be beyond Krygowski's intellect.
>
Poor old Frankie. He thrashes around and comes up with what he thinks
is a logical argument but even a tiny bit of research would show him
that:
"The AR-15s are one of the most popular hunting rifles in America
nowadays, and there are several effective, accessible calibers with
bustling aftermarket's. These cartridges include 6.5 Grendel, . 300
Blackout, . 450 Bushmaster, and ."
>
https://blog.primaryarms.com/guide/ar-15-calibers-for-hunting-deer/
https://www.hunter-ed.com/blog/3-ar-15s-3-types-game/
https://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/
https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/should-your-next-deer-rifle-be-an-ar-15
I could have gone on, there are at least 10 more pages, but why
bother as the first page is sufficient to show Frankie for the fool
that he is.
>
Did you really read those? The theme is "Ooh, ARs are popular. And you _can_ use them for some hunting. Like wild boars, or Hawaiian goats." But about half the copy was about the downsides and how to mitigate them.
>
"with hunting smaller animals with an AR-15 is that you must have a superior aim, and if you plan on eating your small game, the AR is not ideal for the takedown.... ARs for these animals are typically heavier than those built for small game, so you may need to experiment with different stocks for comfort... The standard .223/5.56 rounds are not ideal for large animals... some states don't allow deer hunting with .223 diameter bullets or an AR-15 rifle...the semi-auto action is more likely to malfunction than simpler action designs...A jammed AR-15 may require more steps to get it back in the game...the possibility that the detachable magazine could fall out during a hunt..."
>
Overall, it's about the changes needed to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And still, I saw no mention of the great advantage of being able to empty a 30 round magazine in less than a minute while hunting.
>
I guess that's because it's real value is hunting kids in a schoolroom, right?
>
>
 Right.
Right Andrew! At least you finally admit it! A few dead kids every six months is a small price to pay when you get to keep your toys!
I guess 'no one condones felonious assault' doesn't apply to murdering children in schools.
  As with bicycles, different designs have greater or lesser
success in various applications.
 The AR platform in .223 has some advantages at medium/close range where weight matters. Longer distance low MOA is better achieved with larger calibers and varmint shooters like very small high speed rounds such as the .17.
 Same with a stable mudguard/carrier equipped commuters with heavy durable wide tires. You didn't see even one in the T de F.
 That said there are magnitudes more .223 ARs than .50 Barretts and equally proportioned numbers of commuter bikes vs real race bikes.
Wow...still conflating a device designed to kill humans with a device designed to transport people
That's really sad and pathetic.

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