Re: Garmin altitude problems

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Sujet : Re: Garmin altitude problems
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 00:07:08
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 14:12:12 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2024 12:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
GPS is far more accurate measuring 2D surface distances than 3D
measuring altitude.
"Grade, Elevation, and GPS Accuracy FAQ"
<https://support.ridewithgps.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419010957467-Grade-Elevation-and-GPS-Accuracy-FAQ>
 
Garmin rates their GPS elevation accuracy at +/-400 ft and their
barometric elevation accuracy at +/-50 ft.
 
If anyone wants me to explain why in excruciating detail if anyone is
interested.  The short version is that GPS works by measuring the
Doppler shifts produced by multiple satellites across the sky.  The
motion of the satellite has to be mostly toward or away from the GPS
receiver.  For altitude, that happens best when the satellites are
near the horizon.  A satellite directly overhead does not move toward
or away from the GPS receiver and is therefore useless for computing
altitude.  Since the horizon tends to be cluttered with mountains,
trees, buildings, reflections etc, the signals from the best
positioned satellites can't be used.  Just to make things difficult,
the better GPS antennas are designed to suppress ground reflections
which makes using low elevation satellites even more difficult to use.
>
IIRC, Jobst explained that with some trigonometric detail many years ago.
>
And it's all irrelevant for Florida bike paths.


And anywhere in the midwest.

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7 Aug 24 * Re: Garmin altitude problems55Jeff Liebermann
8 Aug 24 +* Re: Garmin altitude problems2Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24 i`- Re: Garmin altitude problems1John B.
8 Aug 24 `* Re: Garmin altitude problems52Jeff Liebermann
9 Aug 24  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems51John B.
9 Aug 24   +* Re: Garmin altitude problems47Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems26John B.
10 Aug 24   ii`* Re: Garmin altitude problems25Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii +- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski
10 Aug 24   ii `* Re: Garmin altitude problems23Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  +* Re: Garmin altitude problems7Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems5Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  ii`* Re: Garmin altitude problems4John B.
11 Aug 24   ii  ii `* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  ii  +- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski
11 Aug 24   ii  ii  `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  i`- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii  +* Re: Garmin altitude problems6AMuzi
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10 Aug 24   ii  i `* Re: Garmin altitude problems4AMuzi
10 Aug 24   ii  i  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  i   `* Re: Garmin altitude problems2AMuzi
10 Aug 24   ii  i    `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems9Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii   +* Re: Garmin altitude problems7Frank Krygowski
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12 Aug 24   ii   i `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
12 Aug 24   ii   `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems16Frank Krygowski
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11 Aug 24   ii `* Re: Garmin altitude problems14Frank Krygowski
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