Re: Garmin altitude problems

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Sujet : Re: Garmin altitude problems
De : theise (at) *nospam* panix.com (Ted Heise)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 19:46:37
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 14:12:12 -0400,
  Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 On 8/10/2024 12:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
GPS is far more accurate measuring 2D surface distances than
3D measuring altitude. "Grade, Elevation, and GPS Accuracy
FAQ"
<https://support.ridewithgps.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419010957467-Grade-Elevation-and-GPS-Accuracy-FAQ>
 
Garmin rates their GPS elevation accuracy at +/-400 ft and
their barometric elevation accuracy at +/-50 ft.
 
If anyone wants me to explain why in excruciating detail if
anyone is interested.  The short version is that GPS works by
measuring the Doppler shifts produced by multiple satellites
across the sky.  The motion of the satellite has to be mostly
toward or away from the GPS receiver.  For altitude, that
happens best when the satellites are near the horizon.  A
satellite directly overhead does not move toward or away from
the GPS receiver and is therefore useless for computing
altitude.  Since the horizon tends to be cluttered with
mountains, trees, buildings, reflections etc, the signals from
the best positioned satellites can't be used.  Just to make
things difficult, the better GPS antennas are designed to
suppress ground reflections which makes using low elevation
satellites even more difficult to use.

Yep, and nice explanation.


 IIRC, Jobst explained that with some trigonometric detail many
 years ago.
 
 And it's all irrelevant for Florida bike paths.

LOL  Reminds me of a tandem rally in Sebring a few years ago.  At
one point we rode with a couple from Ft. Lauderdale and had a hard
time keeping straight faces when they complained about the hills.

--
Ted Heise      <theise@panix.com>       West Lafayette, IN, USA

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Aug 24 * Re: Garmin altitude problems40Jeff Liebermann
8 Aug 24 +* Re: Garmin altitude problems2Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24 i`- Re: Garmin altitude problems1John B.
8 Aug 24 `* Re: Garmin altitude problems37Jeff Liebermann
9 Aug 24  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems36John B.
9 Aug 24   +* Re: Garmin altitude problems33Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems26John B.
10 Aug 24   ii`* Re: Garmin altitude problems25Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii +- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski
10 Aug 24   ii `* Re: Garmin altitude problems23Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  +* Re: Garmin altitude problems7Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems5Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  ii`* Re: Garmin altitude problems4John B.
11 Aug 24   ii  ii `* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  ii  +- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski
11 Aug 24   ii  ii  `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii  i`- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii  +* Re: Garmin altitude problems6AMuzi
10 Aug 24   ii  i`* Re: Garmin altitude problems5Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  i `* Re: Garmin altitude problems4AMuzi
10 Aug 24   ii  i  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  i   `* Re: Garmin altitude problems2AMuzi
10 Aug 24   ii  i    `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
10 Aug 24   ii  `* Re: Garmin altitude problems9Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   ii   +* Re: Garmin altitude problems7Frank Krygowski
11 Aug 24   ii   i+- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
11 Aug 24   ii   i`* Re: Garmin altitude problems5Ted Heise
11 Aug 24   ii   i +* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Catrike Ryder
12 Aug 24   ii   i i`* Re: Garmin altitude problems2John B.
12 Aug 24   ii   i i `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Catrike Ryder
12 Aug 24   ii   i `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
12 Aug 24   ii   `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Aug 24   i+* Re: Garmin altitude problems3Frank Krygowski
11 Aug 24   ii`* Re: Garmin altitude problems2Jeff Liebermann
11 Aug 24   ii `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski
10 Sep 24   i+- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Sep 24   i`* Re: Garmin altitude problems2Jeff Liebermann
10 Sep 24   i `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Sep 24   +- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Jeff Liebermann
10 Sep 24   `- Re: Garmin altitude problems1Frank Krygowski

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