Re: cyclists attack auto driver

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:41:38 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 8/20/2024 12:30 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:57:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 8/20/2024 11:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:36:11 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 8/20/2024 7:09 AM, John B. wrote:

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Does the term adroit come to mind here, as in Frankie is adroit at
changing the terms to justify his ignorance?
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The original of this 6 rounds in 1 minute  discussion was Frankie
seeming assertion that 6 rounds a minute was probably all that was
possible with common fire arms

Nope, that's a lie. Here's the direct quote of what I said:
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"My bet is also that your family never owned a gun that could fire more
than, say, six rounds in a minute. After all, that capability is
essentially useless for almost all hunting."
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Note I said "_more_ than six rounds" and you proudly bragged about being
able to shoot only six.
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Note that I did not claim such guns were not common. I said I bet your
family did not own one. That's not the same thing, John.
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And I said such capability was useless for almost all hunting.
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If you could have, you would by now have detailed shooting a family gun
_more_ than six times in a minute, and doing so to take game while hunting.
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But since you haven't mentioned it, we can conclude those have never
happened. Just as I said.

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I just cleaned an lubed the Bersa .380 and the Springfield 9mm. Now
the house and my hands smell like gun oil. I hope it lasts a while.

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Hoppes #9 ?
I love that smell.

 
The formula has changed over the years.
The original formula was:
<https://winchestercollector.org/forum/restoration-repair-and-maintenance/smell-of-hoppes-9/#p68977>
Ammonium oleate 5.0 oz
Amyl Acetate  8.5 oz
Nitro-benzene 2.0 oz
Kerosene 8.5 oz
Sperm Oil 8 oz
Good luck finding whale oil.
 
 
The current mix is:
"No. 9 Gun Bore Cleaner"
<https://www.hoppes.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-HuntShootAccessoriesSharedLibrary/default/dwfbc7ef45/productPdfFiles/hoppesPdf/sds/04e3a446-2860-4fdd-9e91-49ea662e5830.pdf>
Kerosene  30-60%
Ethanol  10-30%
Propan-2-ol    5-10%
Amyl Acetate  1-5%
2-methylbutyl acetate  1-5%
Methanol  1-5%
Ammonium Hydroxide  <1%
(R)-p-mentha-1,8-diene  <1%
1,8 cineole <1%
4-methylpentan-2-one <1%
geraniol  <1%
naphthalene  <1%
Nerol  <1%
Citronellol  <1%
p-Cymene  0.121%
diammonium peroxodisulphate <1%

It's the dominant product in its area and cheap anywhere. As
I understand it (pathetic chemistry background) the acetates
and cineole are commonly used fragrances to mask other odors.

Most of the items on the list are volatile and will therefore
contribute to the smell.  I don't know which is dominant.  Amyl
Acetate smells like bananas.  Nerol smells like roses.  Naphthalene
smells like moth balls.  Propan-2-ol (same as isopropyl alcohol)
smells like ummm... isopropyl alcohol.  I don't want to spend the time
researching the other potential fragrances (and possibly some nasal
desensitizers).  Suffice to say that Hoppes put considerable effort
into formulating the product including the smell.


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