Re: cyclists attack auto driver

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:37:33 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 8/21/2024 2:31 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:30:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 8/21/2024 5:39 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:15:30 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:19:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 8/20/2024 12:59 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:33:06 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

...and many with a near, or even a totallly worthless degree.
https://www.universities.com/resources/most-useless-degrees

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Music is not on the above list of useless degrees.
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Music, like history, is one of those college degrees where the only
thing you can do with it is teach. Outside of teachers, I suspect that
the vast majority of people who earn living with music never had much
of an education in music.

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Spoken like a man totally ignorant of music theory, how difficult it can
be and how useful it is when playing, improvising or composing.

 
<LOL> I doubt the lack of knowledge of music theory caused Willy
Nelson, Peter Frampton, Paul Simon, John Lennon, McArtney, or  George
Harrison, any trouble...  Need I go on? I could fill the page with
succesful musician/composers who never even heard the term "music
theory."

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Yes to all that but an equal number of counterexamples.

Yes, I know there is, but it seems that music theory is not
necessarily necessary... To be good, music simply has to sound good.

There's no general rule;

I hate rules.

Formal training assists and
enriches some performers/songwriters while others get along
well on extreme diligence and independent study alone.  Once
in a while there's even a 'natural', a.k.a., 'idiot savant'
as an outlier.  From musicians I've known, I'd say success
correlates strongly to extreme diligence above all else.

+1