Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others

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De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
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Date : 29. Aug 2024, 09:42:47
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:03:59 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:39:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:08:23 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 8/27/2024 9:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
 
USA is a Constitutional Republic.
 
Democracy is something else, for example where the Hutus wake up one
morning and kill the Tutsis. Because they can.
 
Or more simply, two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.
>
There are very logical and practical reasons against running a country
as a pure democracy. That's why its essentially never done.
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Even in a small town, can you imagine needing all the population to vote
on every administrative decision? And can you imagine how random the
votes would be, since very few voters would understand the context of
the issue, or the consequences of their choice?
>
And following the money, it would be easy for those with profits at
stake to flood the citizens with misinformation, to buy the result they
wanted.
>
Actually, the biggest reason a pure Democracy is wrong is because the
majority can vote to violate the rights of the minority, or as Mr Muzi
said, "two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch."
>
That could happen, even with a representative government, without the
Constitution.
>
But that was exactly what the original system was intended to do.
Voting was restricted to those that owned property, had completed
military training and maintained his weapons and of course no women
were allowed to vote, nor slaves nor foreigners.

No, it was not the what the original system was intended to do. From
the very beginning the USA was a representative government, which is
not a pure democracy, and there was the Constitution that protected
the rights of the minority voters from abuse by the majority voters.

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