Sujet : Re: BOLO pervert cyclist
De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 08. Sep 2024, 13:30:54
Autres entêtes
Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
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On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 06:29:46 -0400, Catrike Ryder
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Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:55:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 9/7/2024 9:09 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 11:24:22 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:04:54 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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I'll note that you have _still_ never managed to state a practical
societal benefit of ARs in public possession.
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That might be because he wasn't interested in doing that. It's not as
though your opinions are significant enough to address.
Ah but I did reply, saying (ands providing a reference) that 60-some
percent of auto deaths were due to drunk driving and/or speeding and
asked him to supply the practical societal benefit for that.
He hasn't responded.
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You've made such statments dozens of times - effectively saying "but
cars kill more people and we don't ban cars."
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I've rebutted that over and over, pointing out that the benefits of cars
outweigh the detriments -
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In your opinion (subjective)
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something not true of the type of firearm you
passionately worship. (Despite not owning an example!)
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Ridiculous fallacious argument... "You don't own one so that prove
they're bad."
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And society certainly does _try_ to curtail drunk driving and speeding.
But gun worshipers rail against any attempt to restrict use of guns.
Certainly tries? Frankie's got to be joking if "certainly trying"
results in 32% of the total vehicle traffic fatalities in 2022.
In Singapore, for example:
If you are convicted of drink-driving, you are liable to a fine of
between $2,000 and $10,000 and/or up to 1 years jail for a first-time
offence. Repeat offenders face fines of between $5,000 and $20,000 and
up to 2 years jail.
Nature and degree of actual/potential harm resulting from the offence
In cases where no personal or property harm has occurred, the
following sentencing is applied for first-time offenders:
(mg per 100ml of breath)
Range of fines Range of disqualification
36-54 $2,000 $4,000 24 30 months
55-69 $4,000 $6,000 30 36 months
70-89 $6,000 $8,000 36 48 months
More than 90 $8,000 $10,000 48 60 months (or longer)
Failing to provide a specimen of breath or blood under section 70(4)
Reckless Driving Singapore Punishment
Punishments for Causing Death of Another
If the offender causes the death of another person while driving a
motor vehicle, the offender will face the following penalties if
convicted:
1) For first time offenders imprisonment for a period between 2 to 8
years.
2) For repeat offenders imprisonment for a period between 4 to 15
years.
And.. they are talking about increasing the penalties.
-- Cheers,John B.