Re: BOLO pervert cyclist

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 15:54:51 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 9/8/2024 2:23 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 9/8/2024 11:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/7/2024 10:32 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 9/7/2024 11:12 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:47:51 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 9/7/2024 9:03 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:36:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 9/7/2024 11:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/7/2024 10:04 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

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Auto crash fatalities are a regrettable side effect
of the use of cars
for transportation. And cars are so beneficial for
transportation that
American society would cease to function if cars
could not be used.
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Mass murders in schools are a regrettable side
effect of the worship
of guns, especially AR-style rifles, the weapon of
choice for such
murders. And I'll note that you have _still_ never
managed to state a
practical societal benefit of ARs in public
possession.
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Unlike cars, if ARs could not be used, America
would be better off by
far. Just the tax savings from not having to
"harden" public schools
would be worth the change.
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Or to summarize yet again: Benefits vs. detriments,
John! A concept
that absolutely baffles you!
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By that logic, are fatal car crashes by Ford Fiesta
or Prius drivers
less tragic than those by scary black pickups?

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We could certainly talk about advantages vs.
disadvantages of huge
pickup trucks and other similar vehicles. Books have
been written on
that topic.

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Like
https://www.truckaddons.com/pros-and-cons-of-owning-a-
pickup/
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Notice I provide a reference, you don't.

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https://slate.com/business/2022/02/suvs-pickups-heavy-
huge-deadly- dont-buy-em.html
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or
https://reason.com/2024/02/02/why-are-pickup-trucks-
ridiculously- huge-blame-government/
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"... critics aren't entirely wrong to point out the ill
effects of
mega-truck proliferation—or the oddity of using a
6,500- pound,
22-foot-long vehicle mainly as a grocery-getter.
Pedestrian deaths have
reached 40-year highs and the Insurance Institute for
Highway Safety
research shows that as trucks and SUVs have gotten
taller and heavier,
they likewise have posed greater risks to those outside
the vehicle."
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I have no problem with compact pickup trucks, just as I
have no problem
with what were always considered normal and legitimate
hunting rifles.
But bloated, oversized modern pickup trucks are a close
parallel to
AR-style guns. They are bought mostly to raise the
owners' testosterone
level, by providing capabilities that are essentially
never needed. And
the detriments are externalities, imposed on others who
get none of the
minuscule benefits.

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I can't say for the U.S. but here pickups are used, many
times for
(probably) then they were intended to haul.
https://www.hotcars.com/thailand-largest-pickup-truck-
market-in-the- world/
And the article pretty well says that your two
references just aren't
true... at least here.
https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=thailand+pickup+trucks&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.hotcarsimages.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F01%2Fpthai3.jpg&t=lm
The multitude of used of pickups here. There are even a
few home made
pickups shown.

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America is different. See https://www.thedrive.com/
news/26907/you- dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-
need- a-cowboy-costume
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Among other points the author makes, "...a significant
portion of truck owners never use their trucks for these
capabilities. According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of
truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year
or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck
owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35
percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—
putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison
d’être—once a year or less."
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Same argument applies to 95% of race bikes and probably
half of all upper end bicycles. They are mostly sitting in
garages as we speak.

 
Correct, of course, but even the most avid rider's bike is
probably sitting in his garage at any given moment.
 
It would be more accurate to say that most race bikes are
never raced. Which should be a strong clue that a race bike
is probably far from the best choice for most bicyclists.
 
But hey, they're fashionable!
 

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Not unlike large pickups.  What ever do you care about
either?  I'm happy that people are happy. meh.

+1 ..and why does anyone care what kind of bikes other people buy?

--
C'est bon
Soloman