Re: connected lights

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Sujet : Re: connected lights
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 13. Sep 2024, 01:06:51
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:14:03 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 9/12/2024 4:40 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:13:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
On 9/12/2024 8:53 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/11/2024 4:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/11/2024 5:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/11/2024 3:49 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/11/2024 3:37 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
Am Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:23:22 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com>:
>
>
There is also the fact I like lights that can kick out more oomph
that a
Dynamo can do, and I’m not wild on such cut off beams, while my
commute
light has a low wide beam on low, ie fine around town and so on,
with the
High Beam to give a bit more punch in the woods and so on.
>
In my experience, a modern, StVZO-conforming LED based headlight is
more
than good enough for riding in city traffic. More power usually only
serves to blind other cyclists and still can't compete with car
headlights. Riding in the woods and in the dark, on the other hand, is
better done using a weaker, but wider beam.
>
The only reasonable need I see for more powerful headlights is when
driving on unlit rural roads. Here you need a powerful low beam and
sometimes also a high beam.
>
I agree woods riding is different than road riding. But I've done
lots of unlit road riding with dyno lights and no problems. So have
countless randonneurs.
>
Night vision varies, I'm sure; but I believe the general desire for
more and more and more lumens is caused by the same mechanism the
triggers the desire for more and more rear cogs, less and less bike
weight, bigger and bigger pickup trucks, etc. After a while, people
are chasing advertising copy or quickly diminishing returns.
>
>
You've repeated that for years, implying that unlike mere mortals you
are magically immune to the evil spell of marketers. OK, that could
be true.
>
Or maybe other people actually ride offroad and actually need
brighter lights than you.
>
Read again, Andrew. See where I said "I agree woods riding is
different than road riding"?
>
>
And all the others inbetween who may very rarely ride offroad without
ambient streetlights but want the capacity, people who use the wondrous
little things for car repair and the like (me, just not on my bicycle),
people who just want 'the best one' and yes some amount of the Veblen
effect.
>
As with most consumer decisions, sorting out motive is a fool's errand
as people sincerely misstate motive as they sometimes don't have any
conscious logical process.
>
Understood. Your near-default point is "Everyone's decision is correct."
>
My frequent point is "You don't need to go to extremes to be safe,
especially on a bike."
 
My frequent point is that safe is a subjective evaluation.
 
I feel safe on a bicycle sidepath, you don't.
 
I feel safe having guns in my home, you don't.
 
>
And you are both correct for your personal situation,
abilities, taste etc.

Agreed

Celebrate diversity!

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--
C'est bon
Soloman

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