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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:10:57 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>I've seen those numbers and assume that some significant number of firearm owners would not willingly volunteer that information when asked.
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:37:04 -0400, Catrike RyderGuns are a pretty popular thing in the USA, and the laws are loosening
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:57:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On 9/12/2024 8:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:>On 9/12/2024 6:45 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:>On 9/12/2024 5:40 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:>On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:13:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
Understood. Your near-default point is "Everyone's decision is
correct."
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My frequent point is "You don't need to go to extremes to be safe,
especially on a bike."
My frequent point is that safe is a subjective evaluation.
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I feel safe on a bicycle sidepath, you don't.
You feel safe on a bicycle sidepath only if you've got a handgun ready
to draw and fire within a second or two.
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Correct. Suits his situation, in his personal evaluation.
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As always, when seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.
"His situation" is shared by many other path users. I'm betting he's the
only one so afraid as to never ride without his gun.
Whose to say? Could very well be true on those sidepaths, where's
there's ususally a lot of other people around.
Since I believe that Frankie brought up 9-11. Had any passenger been
armed at least one of the flights - Flight 93 - would likely not have
crashed.
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And possibly even one or more of the other 3, although the time would
have been very close.
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AND I believe that armed Sky Marshals are still flying. A whole bunch
of cowards according to Frankie's theories.
up to accommodate them (us). There's really not very many loonies who
are afraid of having a gun their home.
"About four-in-ten U.S. adults say they live in a household with a
gun, including 32% who say they personally own one, according to a
Center survey conducted in June 2023. These numbers are virtually
unchanged since the last time we asked this question in 2021."
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
Also from that cite:
"About half of Americans who don’t own a gun (52%) say they could
never see themselves owning one, while nearly as many (47%) could
imagine themselves as gun owners in the future."
Poland Ohio looks to be a predominately conservative leaning
community. I wonder how many Poland residents own guns. I wonder how
many of Krygowski's bike club members own one. I wonder how many carry
one on their group rides. There are many that would easily fit in a
handlebar bag. Knowing his fear of guns, they probably wouldn't tell
him, and if they did, he wouldn't admit it here.
Date | Sujet | # | Auteur | |
10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 120 | Frank Krygowski | |
10 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 118 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 117 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 116 | Frank Krygowski | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 111 | AMuzi | |
11 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 110 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 109 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 108 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 105 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 102 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 99 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 98 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 43 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 42 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 37 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 34 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 32 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 26 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 25 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 23 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 21 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 20 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 19 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 18 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 17 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 16 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 9 | Jeff Liebermann | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Zen Cycle | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 54 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 39 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 36 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 3 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 31 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 30 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 23 | AMuzi | |
14 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 21 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | zen cycle | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 15 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 10 | AMuzi | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 6 | John B. | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 5 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 4 | AMuzi | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | AMuzi | |
25 Sep07:26 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 3 | Frank Krygowski | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
16 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
15 Sep 24 | Re: gun carrry on bikes | 1 | John B. | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 14 | Catrike Ryder | |
13 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | AMuzi | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 2 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
12 Sep 24 | Re: connected lights | 1 | AMuzi |
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