Re: tricyclist shot

On 9/16/2024 9:29 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 9/15/2024 11:07 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 14:41:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 9/14/2024 10:03 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 18:30:16 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:50:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 9/14/2024 11:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/13/us-news/cyclist-75- stuck-in-face-by-stray-
bullet-on-nyc-street/
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Fortunately NY laws kept the victim from returning fire, else it could
have been a tragedy for the hapless juveniles, damaged by society's
failures.

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This is what happens if you saturate society with guns.

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    According to the article, all of the criminals were teens.
It's probably easier to buy a stolen gun that a bottle of beer.

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But gosh, no "good guy with a gun" was able to stop the shooting? How
can that be?

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    I'm glad the laws kept him from returning fire. Imagine a 75
year old with blood clouding his eyesight emptying a 15 round magazine
into what he "thought" were the "bad guys".

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Well (:-) my grandfather well into his 70's, and maybe 80's, was still
hunting and using 1 bullet for 1 deer.

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Gosh! He didn't need a 30 round magazine and the ability to empty it
into his prey within a minute?

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I've told and Andrew have told you over and over but you just don't
listed.
So SEE BLOW for lists of firearms with exactly the same rate of fire
as the dreaded AR.
Do try to be a bit more rational in future posts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semi-automatic_rifles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semi-automatic_pistols
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As for those huge AR magazines see any "magazine shop" as they
certainly supply 5 and 10 round magazines.

 To summarize:
 My point was, by your description, your grandfather did not need to fire 30 rounds rapidly to take down a deer. IOW, that capability isn't needed for legitimate deer hunting.
 Your attempted rebuttal: "Lots of guns fire rapidly."
 How do you not see that your point does not rebut mine?
 

No one is attacking or defending deer hunting as regards 2d Amendment.
Patiently lining up a shot on a deer is utterly and completely irrelevant to defending against a human threat. Those incidents are decided in decimals of a second not several deliberate minutes.
Typical event shows <2 seconds from first display of attacker's weapon to fatal shot in this one minute report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2iv4bE9cLM
And deer do not return fire so subsequent rounds are irrelevant in almost all cases. The usual aftermath of a poor deer shot is long tedious tracking, not another round.
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Andrew Muzi
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