Re: RE: Re: Ritchey'd Jobst site

On 9/20/2024 10:25 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Sep 19 19:37:56 2024 AMuzi  wrote:

On 9/19/2024 7:05 PM, cyclintom wrote:

Chris was showing me some pictures. One of them was when he won the US
Championship and another was when he was a member of the first US pro team
in Europe.
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He worked at the bike shop in Palo Alto when he got back from
Europe the first time. His memory is that it wasn't Tom Ritchey who
actually built the replacement frames for Jobst but Peter (?), the shop
manager at Palo Alto. Exactly how that all went about is anyone's guess
since Peter died recently.

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Peter Rich?
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https://www.bikeroute.com/NationalBicycleGreenwayNews/2023/08/18/velo-sport-founder-peter-rich-rip-8-3-23/
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Since I knew all three men, my opinion is, that's not what
happened.
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Mr Ritchey rebuilt Mr Brandt's custom Cinelli and later
built a replacement and several more after.
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  Yes, Peter Rich. Tom Ritchey had to already be building bikes and have a frrame jig. Where do you suppose he got this knoeledgr? He certainly didn't invent jig making and never being oberseas he didn't know the process or have available the BCS tools. And they were very hard to come by in those days.
 So I assume that someone that had been to Europe and mopre specifically the Raleigh factory.

Building with careful measurements and setups is very doable without a frame plate or stand. It's very convenient but not essential.
I built custom frames before making a frame plate, as did many builders.
I find mine handy for repairs to duplicate geometry with a replaced tube:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/coln14c.jpg
especially so for fillet brazing:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/peg13i.jpg
What's a BCS tool?  Is that an AI program to make custom frame customers happy with the loony unrideable designs they demand?  That would be useful!
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