Re: E-Biikes are not bicycles

Am Thu, 26 Sep 2024 16:51:52 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com>:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 9/26/2024 9:27 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:

[...] Someone who has switched from a bicycle to an
E-bike has already essentially given up on cycling, regardless of how
some clueless politicians twist the laws to treat low-powered mopeds
like bicycles.

[...]

The E Bike means he’s not so beat up on bigger MTB rides, less the
endurance as he’s still fit by anyone’s standards but he doesn’t end up
going into the red multiple times trying to keep up with me, less the speed
I ride more the terrain, ie riding along the canal or old railways type
stuff wasn’t why he got a E bike but so he could still do 20/30 miles
across and up/down the mountains.
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In practice its essentially closed the gap so we’re able to do similar
terrain and distance, it’s only when stuff is non technical and I’m on the
MTB that he has to slow down and wait for me, such as coming with me up a
horrible road climb I wanted to do! That had a significant section holding
28% that was definitely type 2 fun! And yes he had to wait for me!

That's essentially the definition of a motorized vehicle: it closes the
gap between someone who has gained the ability to ride fast and wide, by
using a bicycle with some intensity for long enough, and somebody who
hasn't, for whatever reason (most simply by choice).   A weak person can
ride as fast as somebody who trained his or her body for most of his or
her life, simply by using a car or a motorcycle. Even more, a weak
person in a better car or on a heavier powered motorcycle can easily
outrun a strong person in a weaker automobile.

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But even then on the old tramline after on the Gravel bike I have to just
ease off as I can ride higher than the limiter on the flats or even false
flats.
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It’s not giving him Pro level of performance not by a long shot!

I didn't write that an E-Bike gives anybody the performance of a TdF
professional. Far from it. The E-Biker usually doesn't have any of the
motor skills acquired during through long, intensive use of a real
bicycle.

What I wrote was that the motor of an E-Bike is able to supply about as
much additional power to a weak cyclist as a professional racer on a
bicycle usually needs, sometimes even more. And certainly more
endurance.


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