Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Fine Tuning Shifting

On 10/29/2024 5:19 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Fri Aug 16 17:14:41 2024 AMuzi  wrote:

On 8/16/2024 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Aug 15 12:04:09 2024 AMuzi  wrote:

On 8/15/2024 11:36 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Aug 15 11:10:18 2024 AMuzi  wrote:

On 8/15/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Wed Aug 14 19:29:27 2024 zen cycle  wrote:

On 8/14/2024 3:35 PM, cyclintom wrote:

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I am willing to believe that Flunky raced friction shifters but that
his memory of that is so poor that he doesn't even remember how he did
it.

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Yes tom, I remember quite distinctly how I did it.
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On the beginning of a YouTube video (about a race Lemond won)
there was a HEADER showing a freewheel frcition setup going through
the gears and there was perfectly distinct pauses between gears as the
power was shut down.

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No, there isn't. If you have a link to this video that shows someone
stopping pedaling to shift, post it. You don't stop pedaling to shift,
ever, you fucking idiot.
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What was also distinct about that video was that
racers did NOT follow as closely as they do now because of that large
variation in power causing accelerations to be rather spotty.

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You're the same guy who said down tube shifters are in the way of your
knees, and also said one must look down to shift down tube shifters. I
think it's pretty clear who is the one here that has no fucking clue
what he's talking about.
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Greg LeMond was filmed looking down to shift friction shifters but you're so much better than him you don't need to. I wonder who it is that doesn't have a clue?

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Even I ( never had a racing license) don't look at my gear
levers.

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So you don't use STI?

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I do not.  My six speed drivetrain is fine, adequate to my
riding.
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(lighter weight too!)
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I freely admit that tastes differ.  I guess you can get Shimano stepped freewheels now. But pretending that you don't have to power off while shifting an old Mavic straight cut gear freewheel is why people used to break chains.

You claimed you had to stop pedaling to shift. That's wrong. Everyone who responded said they keep pedaling under a lower load.

If memory serves, you had to be careful starting out from a stop in the morning because if you stood up on the pedals to power away and the chain and the shifter weren't matched, you could and often did break chains.

Simple...don't do that. Make sure your derailleur is lined up before you come to a stop. I can't speak for everyone here but I never had an issue with that on my down-tube bikes except when I had to stop short.

Of course Krygowski believes that no one accelerates off of a stop.

No one said that, idiot. You claimed every rider accelerates at maximum power. Everyone here who responded called bullshit.
You also claimed everyone with downtube shifters looks down to shift (they don't) and your knees hit the shifters (they don't).

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In my experience the classic racing chains (Regina Oro and
Sedis #4D) were tougher and gave much longer mileage than
modern chain.
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Failures were rare and, as now, almost always due to
customer futzing around (badly) with setting (or not quite
setting) a rivet.
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There's nothing normal or expected about chain failure.
Fortunately.
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-- Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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    Rather than set by eye on the DeRosa, I reverted to setting it entirely by ear and now no more skipping. But when I sight down the chain it doesn't look right. Such is life.

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