Re: 1972 Legnano in the news

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Sujet : Re: 1972 Legnano in the news
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 10. Nov 2024, 11:28:34
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:57:56 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 11/9/2024 4:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
 
I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free
county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I wear a helmet.
>
Since this is a discussion group, when you make a statement like
"Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet" you can expect it to be
discussed. There's ample data available calling your statement into
question. Wolfgang knows this.

I have no problems with someone believing and saying "generally it is
much safer to wear a helmet. I think it's ridiculous to argue
otherwise. It's total nonsense to claim that it's generally safer to
not wear a helmet; therefore.....

I believe it'd also be true of riding a motorcycle, riding in a motor
vehicle, or even riding a horse. It seems to me that when doing
something where a head injury is possible, a helmet would lessen the
risk of it.

The issue, of course, is not whether or not it's safer to wear a
helmet, but whether or not an individual is willing to accept the
discomfort and hassle of wearing a helmet.

It seems to me that it should be a subjective decision and it makes no
sense to argue anything other than about the legal right to make that
decision.

Some people favor a nanny government.  I do not.

 

--
C'est bon
Soloman

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Nov 24 * 1972 Legnano in the news198AMuzi
9 Nov 24 +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news192Frank Krygowski
9 Nov 24 i+- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1AMuzi
9 Nov 24 i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news185Mark J cleary
9 Nov 24 ii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news176Wolfgang Strobl
9 Nov 24 iii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news174Mark J cleary
9 Nov 24 iiii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news34Wolfgang Strobl
10 Nov 24 iiiii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news30Catrike Ryder
10 Nov 24 iiiiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news29Roger Merriman
10 Nov11:29 iiiiii +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news27Catrike Ryder
10 Nov11:42 iiiiii i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news13John B.
10 Nov12:27 iiiiii ii+- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Catrike Ryder
10 Nov12:27 iiiiii ii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news9Roger Merriman
10 Nov13:10 iiiiii iii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news6John B.
10 Nov13:23 iiiiii iiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news5Roger Merriman
10 Nov15:08 iiiiii iiii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4John B.
10 Nov16:46 iiiiii iiii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Roger Merriman
11 Nov05:35 iiiiii iiii   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2John B.
11 Nov18:15 iiiiii iiii    `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
10 Nov18:09 iiiiii iii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2AMuzi
10 Nov18:55 iiiiii iii `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
14 Nov21:06 iiiiii ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Tom Kunich
15 Nov12:52 iiiiii ii `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
11 Nov04:12 iiiiii i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news13Frank Krygowski
11 Nov12:05 iiiiii i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news12Catrike Ryder
11 Nov23:16 iiiiii i  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news11Frank Krygowski
12 Nov00:02 iiiiii i   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news10Catrike Ryder
12 Nov04:11 iiiiii i    `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news9Frank Krygowski
12 Nov10:52 iiiiii i     `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news8Catrike Ryder
12 Nov14:32 iiiiii i      +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Zen Cycle
14 Nov22:10 iiiiii i      i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Zen Cycle
15 Nov01:35 iiiiii i      i `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Jeff Liebermann
12 Nov18:45 iiiiii i      `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4Frank Krygowski
12 Nov20:11 iiiiii i       `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Catrike Ryder
12 Nov22:27 iiiiii i        `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Zen Cycle
14 Nov22:10 iiiiii i         `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Zen Cycle
13 Nov22:49 iiiiii `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Zen Cycle
13 Nov19:11 iiiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Tom Kunich
13 Nov22:52 iiiii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Zen Cycle
16 Nov22:48 iiiii  `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Tom Kunich
10 Nov04:57 iiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news139Frank Krygowski
10 Nov11:28 iiii +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news15Catrike Ryder
10 Nov11:52 iiii i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news14John B.
10 Nov12:43 iiii i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Catrike Ryder
10 Nov13:05 iiii i i`- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1John B.
10 Nov18:05 iiii i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news11AMuzi
10 Nov18:45 iiii i  +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Catrike Ryder
11 Nov03:53 iiii i  i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Frank Krygowski
11 Nov11:41 iiii i  i `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Catrike Ryder
11 Nov05:23 iiii i  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news7John B.
11 Nov06:19 iiii i   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news6Frank Krygowski
11 Nov10:00 iiii i    +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2John B.
11 Nov22:30 iiii i    i`- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Frank Krygowski
11 Nov15:59 iiii i    `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3AMuzi
11 Nov16:12 iiii i     `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Rolf Mantel
11 Nov20:24 iiii i      `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Wolfgang Strobl
10 Nov15:19 iiii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news123John B.
10 Nov16:51 iiii  +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news120Roger Merriman
10 Nov18:20 iiii  i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news6Catrike Ryder
10 Nov18:55 iiii  ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news5Roger Merriman
11 Nov04:11 iiii  ii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4Frank Krygowski
11 Nov12:03 iiii  ii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Catrike Ryder
11 Nov15:18 iiii  ii   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2John B.
11 Nov22:48 iiii  ii    `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Frank Krygowski
11 Nov05:25 iiii  i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news113John B.
11 Nov10:47 iiii  i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news112Roger Merriman
11 Nov22:34 iiii  i  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news111Frank Krygowski
12 Nov02:20 iiii  i   +- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
12 Nov23:44 iiii  i   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news109Radey Shouman
13 Nov04:29 iiii  i    +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news104Frank Krygowski
13 Nov10:06 iiii  i    i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news5John B.
13 Nov10:42 iiii  i    ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4Catrike Ryder
13 Nov15:50 iiii  i    ii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3AMuzi
13 Nov16:11 iiii  i    ii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Catrike Ryder
13 Nov20:29 iiii  i    ii   `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
13 Nov10:35 iiii  i    i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news84Catrike Ryder
13 Nov11:27 iiii  i    ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news83John B.
13 Nov12:45 iiii  i    ii +- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Catrike Ryder
13 Nov17:13 iiii  i    ii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news81Frank Krygowski
13 Nov17:35 iiii  i    ii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news80Catrike Ryder
13 Nov18:11 iiii  i    ii   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news79Zen Cycle
13 Nov20:52 iiii  i    ii    `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news78Frank Krygowski
13 Nov21:07 iiii  i    ii     +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news76Catrike Ryder
13 Nov22:01 iiii  i    ii     i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news75Frank Krygowski
13 Nov22:23 iiii  i    ii     i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news30Catrike Ryder
13 Nov22:57 iiii  i    ii     i i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news29Zen Cycle
13 Nov23:19 iiii  i    ii     i i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news27Catrike Ryder
13 Nov23:31 iiii  i    ii     i i i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news26Zen Cycle
14 Nov00:35 iiii  i    ii     i i i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news17Catrike Ryder
14 Nov14:15 iiii  i    ii     i i i i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news16Zen Cycle
14 Nov14:38 iiii  i    ii     i i i i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news14Catrike Ryder
14 Nov15:18 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news13Zen Cycle
14 Nov15:59 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news12Catrike Ryder
14 Nov18:30 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news11Zen Cycle
14 Nov19:03 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i   +- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1AMuzi
15 Nov01:12 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news9Catrike Ryder
15 Nov14:37 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i    `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news8Zen Cycle
15 Nov14:49 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i     `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news7Catrike Ryder
15 Nov15:02 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i      +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Zen Cycle
15 Nov16:00 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i      i`- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Catrike Ryder
15 Nov17:44 iiii  i    ii     i i i i i      `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4Frank Krygowski
14 Nov22:15 iiii  i    ii     i i i i `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Zen Cycle
14 Nov06:25 iiii  i    ii     i i i +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news7Frank Krygowski
14 Nov22:13 iiii  i    ii     i i i `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Zen Cycle
14 Nov22:18 iiii  i    ii     i i `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Zen Cycle
14 Nov06:44 iiii  i    ii     i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news44John B.
14 Nov06:54 iiii  i    ii     `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1John B.
13 Nov20:09 iiii  i    i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news11Roger Merriman
15 Nov16:14 iiii  i    i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Wolfgang Strobl
13 Nov04:35 iiii  i    `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4Joy Beeson
11 Nov03:57 iiii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Frank Krygowski
13 Nov19:06 iii`- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Tom Kunich
13 Nov19:01 ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news8Tom Kunich
15 Nov00:14 i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Frank Krygowski
16 Nov22:16 i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Tom Kunich
9 Nov 24 +- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Wolfgang Strobl
11 Nov15:35 +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Zen Cycle
14 Nov22:08 +- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1AMuzi
16 Nov22:19 `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Tom Kunich

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