Re: 1972 Legnano in the news

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Sujet : Re: 1972 Legnano in the news
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 10. Nov 2024, 11:29:51
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On 10 Nov 2024 00:38:19 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 22:35:57 +0100, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
 
Am Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:13:53 -0600 schrieb Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net>:
 
On 11/9/2024 2:28 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
Am Sat, 9 Nov 2024 10:06:26 -0600 schrieb Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net>:
 
On 11/8/2024 9:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/8/2024 8:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Check the photos here:
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14061289/Emmy-award-
winner-1970s-sitcom-unrecognizable-77-bikes-LA.html
 
Whoa! Exposed cables! Down tube friction shifting! Center pull brakes!
36 spoke wheels! Full sized frame pump! And she's not in a "protected"
bike lane! Is it even possible to ride that way?  ;-)
 
"She adhered to safety regulations by having a black helmet on, wore
pink trainers and had a red jacket tied around her waist" is nonsense.
There is no helmet regulation that applies to her.
 
And the jacket around her waist is not a particularly good idea,
although it's at least better than tying it around the handlebars. I
know a guy who did that and had a sleeve dangle into his front wheel.
His next couple seconds were far from fun.
 
Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet although no breaking a laws
by not wearing one.
 
So why don't you wear a helmet while walking or while driving your
car*)?  People die while walking and as drivers or passengers of cars.
 
 
 
Not sure why a black helmet is better
 
Some fetishs work only when blessed by a druid and when the color
complements the aureola.
 
and tying things around your waist is not a good idea.
 
Indeed. Especially, when the bike has a rack.
 
 
Better to simply leave the
extra clothes on and sweat. That would be safer.
 
Questionable. With additional clothing, a fast rider sweats more, not
less. The sweat just does not cool the rider if it is absorbed by the
clothing. Overheating harms concentration, which might become dangerous.
 
Long pants are a better idea if you go down.
 
Light clothing does not protect much, but can contaminate a wound.
Depending on the speed, it can even cause burns.
 
Winter clothing on a sunny day seems excessive.
 
But let's get realistic. Who expects press photos like these to be taken
on a real bike tour?  What do we know about the journey for which this
clothing was intended? Only two accessories irritate me here: the helmet
and the shoelaces. Bicycle helmets are a misunderstanding and open
shoelaces next to a chainring are dangerous.
 
*) I assume you don't, sorry if you do
 
I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free
county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I wear a helmet.
 
Actually, you argued. You wrote "Generally it is much safer to wear a
helmet", see above.  Which specific country are you talking about? There
are countries enforcing helmet laws for cyclists.
 
My question referred to whether you wear a helmet when you walk or use a
car. Isn't it generally much safer to wear a helmet when walking or
using a car?
 
Why does anyone care if other people wear a helmet?  I sure don't.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 
>
As with number of things particularly religion and politics people do seem
to care intensely what others do!
>
Personally as long as it doesn’t harm others, crack on as you were!
>
Helmets also fit into the simple but wrong vs complicated and right sort of
thing. And definitely not the sort of thing that should be legislated sadly
some places have gone that way, and some organisations just can’t help
themselves in a something must be done sort of way.
>
Luckily the uk political and cultural norms means that attempts to get it
legislated have always failed as the time and effort for a government to
give time to a bill vs the benefits, means even if it gets a MP to raise
it, it doesn’t pass.
>
Roger Merriman

The world would be a better place if nanny governments would stop
passing laws for the individual's own good; basically if everyone
would simply mind their own business.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

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9 Nov 24 * 1972 Legnano in the news198AMuzi
9 Nov 24 +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news192Frank Krygowski
9 Nov 24 i+- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1AMuzi
9 Nov 24 i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news185Mark J cleary
9 Nov 24 ii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news176Wolfgang Strobl
9 Nov 24 iii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news174Mark J cleary
9 Nov 24 iiii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news34Wolfgang Strobl
10 Nov 24 iiiii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news30Catrike Ryder
10 Nov 24 iiiiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news29Roger Merriman
10 Nov11:29 iiiiii +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news27Catrike Ryder
10 Nov11:42 iiiiii i+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news13John B.
10 Nov12:27 iiiiii ii+- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Catrike Ryder
10 Nov12:27 iiiiii ii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news9Roger Merriman
10 Nov13:10 iiiiii iii+* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news6John B.
10 Nov13:23 iiiiii iiii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news5Roger Merriman
10 Nov15:08 iiiiii iiii `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news4John B.
10 Nov16:46 iiiiii iiii  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Roger Merriman
11 Nov05:35 iiiiii iiii   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2John B.
11 Nov18:15 iiiiii iiii    `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
10 Nov18:09 iiiiii iii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2AMuzi
10 Nov18:55 iiiiii iii `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
14 Nov21:06 iiiiii ii`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Tom Kunich
15 Nov12:52 iiiiii ii `- Re: 1972 Legnano in the news1Roger Merriman
11 Nov04:12 iiiiii i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news13Frank Krygowski
11 Nov12:05 iiiiii i `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news12Catrike Ryder
11 Nov23:16 iiiiii i  `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news11Frank Krygowski
12 Nov00:02 iiiiii i   `* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news10Catrike Ryder
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10 Nov18:45 iiii i  +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news3Catrike Ryder
11 Nov03:53 iiii i  i`* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news2Frank Krygowski
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10 Nov16:51 iiii  +* Re: 1972 Legnano in the news120Roger Merriman
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