Re: 1972 Legnano in the news

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:

On 11/11/2024 3:47 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10 Nov 2024 14:51:05 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
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John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:57:56 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 11/9/2024 4:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:

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I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free
county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I
wear a helmet.

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Since this is a discussion group, when you make a statement like
"Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet" you can expect it to be
discussed. There's ample data available calling your statement into
question. Wolfgang knows this.

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"Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8909479/
An average of 247 traumatic brain injury deaths and 140,000 head
injuries among children and adolescents younger than 20 years were
related to bicycle crashes each year in the United States. As many as
184 deaths and 116,000 head injuries might have been prevented
annually if these riders had worn helmets.

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And yet places with low rates such as the Netherlands or even as helmets
have high useage be that cultural or legal the rate hasn’t been shown to
decrease, judging helmets wearing and none is full of problems ie they tend
to differ more likely to see kids helmets less in poorer areas which also
are generally have more dangerous roads and so on.
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Just because Frank has one viewpoint doesn’t mean you have to take the
opposite you know!
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"There's ample data available calling your statement into
question."

No there are selective studies, which much like modelling ideas
can’t and
don’t cover everything.
Hence population studies all come to the same conclusions ie no
effect can
be found.
Doesn’t mean might not be useful individually but for a population..

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Of course there may be individuals who for whatever reason may benefit
from a styrofoam helmet.
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Some years ago I stopped in a fast food restaurant while traveling. A
man entered with his teenaged son, who was severely handicapped. He
was able to walk, but only with assistance, and he seemed unable to
express himself verbally. He was wearing a bike helmet just for
walking. For him, that may have been reasonable.

I just did a web search for "walking helmet", and got pages of stuff on
helmets for babies and toddlers learning to walk.  I guess that's a
thing these days; I must be out of touch.  Perhaps one day we'll see a
generation unwilling to step outside without a helmet.

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