Re: 1972 Legnano in the news

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:42:15 +0700, John B. wrote:
 

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 04:29:51 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 

On 10 Nov 2024 00:38:19 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 22:35:57 +0100, Wolfgang Strobl
<news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
 

Am Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:13:53 -0600 schrieb Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net>:
 

On 11/9/2024 2:28 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:

Am Sat, 9 Nov 2024 10:06:26 -0600 schrieb Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net>:
 

On 11/8/2024 9:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 11/8/2024 8:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:

Check the photos here:
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14061289/Emmy-

award-

winner-1970s-sitcom-unrecognizable-77-bikes-LA.html

 
Whoa! Exposed cables! Down tube friction shifting! Center pull
brakes!
36 spoke wheels! Full sized frame pump! And she's not in a
"protected"
bike lane! Is it even possible to ride that way?  ;-)
 
"She adhered to safety regulations by having a black helmet on,
wore pink trainers and had a red jacket tied around her waist"
is nonsense.
There is no helmet regulation that applies to her.
 
And the jacket around her waist is not a particularly good idea,
although it's at least better than tying it around the
handlebars. I know a guy who did that and had a sleeve dangle
into his front wheel. His next couple seconds were far from fun.
 

Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet although no breaking
a laws by not wearing one.

 
So why don't you wear a helmet while walking or while driving your
car*)?  People die while walking and as drivers or passengers of
cars.
 
 
 

Not sure why a black helmet is better

 
Some fetishs work only when blessed by a druid and when the color
complements the aureola.
 

and tying things around your waist is not a good idea.

 
Indeed. Especially, when the bike has a rack.
 
 

Better to simply leave the extra clothes on and sweat. That would
be safer.

 
Questionable. With additional clothing, a fast rider sweats more,
not less. The sweat just does not cool the rider if it is absorbed
by the clothing. Overheating harms concentration, which might
become dangerous.
 

Long pants are a better idea if you go down.

 
Light clothing does not protect much, but can contaminate a wound.
Depending on the speed, it can even cause burns.
 
Winter clothing on a sunny day seems excessive.
 
But let's get realistic. Who expects press photos like these to be
taken on a real bike tour?  What do we know about the journey for
which this clothing was intended? Only two accessories irritate me
here: the helmet and the shoelaces. Bicycle helmets are a
misunderstanding and open shoelaces next to a chainring are
dangerous.
 
*) I assume you don't, sorry if you do
 

I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free
county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I wear a
helmet.

 
Actually, you argued. You wrote "Generally it is much safer to wear
a helmet", see above.  Which specific country are you talking about?
There are countries enforcing helmet laws for cyclists.
 
My question referred to whether you wear a helmet when you walk or
use a car. Isn't it generally much safer to wear a helmet when
walking or using a car?

 
Why does anyone care if other people wear a helmet?  I sure don't.
 
--
C'est bon Soloman
 
 

As with number of things particularly religion and politics people do
seem to care intensely what others do!
 
Personally as long as it doesn’t harm others, crack on as you were!
 
Helmets also fit into the simple but wrong vs complicated and right
sort of thing. And definitely not the sort of thing that should be
legislated sadly some places have gone that way, and some organisations
just can’t help themselves in a something must be done sort of way.
 
Luckily the uk political and cultural norms means that attempts to get
it legislated have always failed as the time and effort for a
government to give time to a bill vs the benefits, means even if it
gets a MP to raise it, it doesn’t pass.
 
Roger Merriman

 
The world would be a better place if nanny governments would stop
passing laws for the individual's own good; basically if everyone would
simply mind their own business.

 
 
And when the next 5 year kid runs out in front of a car and ends up a
greasy spot on the road people will be shouting, "THERE OUT TO BE A LAW!

 
There are laws protecting children in school zones where it is most likely
that kids will run out in front of cars. The trouble here now is that they
have changed the 15 mph speed limit to 25 mph - that is 3 car lengths per
second and beyond the capacity of small children to judge.
 

Let alone the ability to survive such collision rapidly diminishes hence
london and Wales have significant 20mph areas, which if in built up areas
are kinda win win for various reasons.

Roger Merriman