Sujet : Re: Fine Tuning Shifting
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 15. Nov 2024, 18:54:38
Autres entêtes
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:44:02 -0500, Zen Cycle <
funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 11/14/2024 5:26 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 07:23:11 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 7:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Only an idiot like you doesn't know that fire departments well know how to put out gas fires with water.
no, tommy, they don't. Only an idiot thinks they do.
Unfortunately, this time Tom is half right and half wrong. See the
comments under "confusion":
<https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/lithium-ion-batteries/#faqs>
"Firefighters should use water to fight a lithium-ion battery fire.
Water works just fine as a fire extinguishing medium since the lithium
inside of these batteries are a lithium salt electrolyte and not pure
lithium metal. Confusion on this topic stems from the fact that pure
lithium (like what you see in the table of elements) is highly
reactive with water, while lithium salts are non-reactive with water.:
>
Fine, except your responding to a segment where tommy is claiming water
is used by fire departments to put out gasoline fires.
Oops. My fault. I got lost in the switching back and forth between
gasoline fires and Li-Ion battery fires. I also missed the words "gas
fire" in Tom's comment. For example, this topic shuffle from Tom
appeared a few up stream:
Message-ID: <
vbtbga$3sa13$1@dont-email.me>
"Do you always have to prove me right concerning your IQ? Gasoline
butns at 540 degrees F. Lithium Ion fires are MUCH hotter and self
sustaining. Fire departments no longer even try to put them out."
In the future, I'll try to be more careful.
Incidentally, I also get confused when someone uses the term gas. When
discussing gasoline, I limit the term "gas" to refer to one of the
fundamental states of matter, not the liquid we buy at the pump. The
term "gas fire" means a propane, butane or methane fire. It's much
like the term "bike" which could be a bicycle, motorcycle, motorbike,
etc.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.comPO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.comBen Lomond CA 95005-0272Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Re: Fine Tuning Shifting
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