Re: 1972 Legnano in the news

Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
 

On 11/14/2024 1:40 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 
Re-read, Roger. Yes, potholes are more common on roads than on bike
trails. But the crashes I described were not caused by potholes, in part
because potholes are a well known hazard that road cyclists watch for.
 

They still kill and injure cyclists, potholes that is, and tend to be more
significant hazards in general with sharper edges deeper, and obscured by
traffic, mind you in a self selecting way I’m more concerned about potholes
with the car than my bikes.

 
Do potholes kill and injure cyclists? Perhaps to some degree. But the
data I posted still showed bike trails to cause far more crashes than
ordinary roads, despite the horror of potholes on roads.
 

Autumn leaves and stout fallen branches are definitely _not_ motor
vehicle derived. Instead, they are kicked or blown aside by passing
cars. They may possibly, occasionally, lie in the dead center of the
lane for a short while if the road has near zero car traffic, but that's
no a problem for a cyclist smart enough to ride in the tire track zone.

The segregated stuff in london, doesn’t seem to get sprayed leaf
litter,
generally caught by whatever is the segregated, I can only think of one
cycle lane that gets fair bit of leaf litter, which seems to be from the
overhead trees than kicked by cars, seems to have enough cycle traffic to
keep it as just muck than leaves.

 
Please remember the data I referenced was talking about not on-street
bike lanes, but instead about separated rail trails and linear parks.
Around here, anyway, such trails do have nearby trees. Oddly enough,
those trees drop leaves in autumn. They lay on the trails until the
governing authority blows them off - if indeed they ever do.

 
Here they have a miniature street sweeper that actually vacuums up the
leaves; it's kind of cute.  On the other hand, nothing is done to clear
paths during the winter.
 

Not seen any of those, are some miniature street sweepers that are used for
cyclelanes and pavements and so on, and apparently a snow plow though
considering the probability of London having snow i suspect that’s been
unused and frankly if it does snow and settle London’s transportation
grinds to a halt as it’s just not set up to cope!

Roger Merriman