Re: Patching TPU innertube

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Sujet : Re: Patching TPU innertube
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 28. Dec 2024, 06:29:11
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:02:33 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:40:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 12/27/2024 2:01 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 12/27/2024 1:28 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
 
Given what I've read about violins (Stradivarius can't be told from
modern ones in blind hearing tests)
 
horseshit. Someone with training and experience can most certainly tell
the difference in the tonal quality between a Stradivarius and even a
high quality modern violin.
>
https://www.science.org/content/article/million-dollar-strads-fall-modern-violins-blind-sound-check
>
and wines (cheap wines really light up pleasure centers in the brain
if tasters are told the wine is expensive),

Right.  In early college, Ripple was the wine of choice for
impoverished students.
<http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html>
That brings up fond memories of making love to a toilet seat after
imbibing.  About 2 years before graduating, I switched to grape juice:
<https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.120020290.html>
I still drink it today.

For Tom, here is a magazine that should be of interest:
"Modern Drunkard Magazine"
<https://drunkard.com>
This poster should look good on your wall:
<https://gear.drunkard.com/product/league-of-magnificent-bastards-poster-no-1/>
 
more horseshit. Someone with training and experience can certainly tell
the difference in the flavor profiles, especially if you tried to dupe
them with a Gallo.
https://money.com/expensive-price-tag-cheap-wine-brain-placebo-effect/
>
I notice hat you didn't quote the portion of  your reference that
states
"One big grain of salt? Neuroscientists don't all agree that using
brain structure to infer behavior or personality makes for sound
science—and Plassmann and Weber acknowledge in their study that some
researchers are skeptical of that methodology in general."

It's been demonstrated many times that it's possible to fool the
experts and by implication the great masses.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the
people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of
the time."

The implication here is that most such tests use too small a test
population. 

Such tests do their best but usually fail because of environmental
limitations.  For example, the musical instrument tests are usually a
mess because some instruments are designed to sound good un-amplified
in an auditorium while others are intended for studio work where
amplification (and signal processing) are an integral part of the
recording process.  Room acoustics are also a factor.  The studio is
usually an acoustically "dead" environment.  A live performance in
such a room really does sound dead while the same players and
instruments in a proper auditorium sounds very much "alive".  To make
the studio recording sound alive, reverb (reverberations) are added in
editing.  In an auditorium and sometimes in an outdoor venue, a few
instruments use a built in acoustic pickup so that reverb can be
added.

I had the displeasure of attending an orchestral practice session in
1965(?), a few weeks after the opening of the Dorothy Chandler
Pavilion at the LA Music Center:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Chandler_Pavilion>
"The hall's acoustics were controversial during the period the Los
Angeles Philharmonic made the pavilion its home.
...the basic issue was that the Pavilion was a multi-purpose room,
rather than one tailored to orchestral concerts."

That's an understatement.  I thought that the hall sounded awful.
However, I didn't have the opportunity to check if a better seat would
deliver better acoustics.

<https://www.sfcv.org/articles/feature/digital-system-fixes-concert-hall-sound>
"...Zellerbach is but one of a host of concert halls built in
California without regard for acoustics. (L.A.’s Dorothy Chandler
Pavilion and Cupertino’s Flint Center are others.)"

If the Stradivarius violin testing had been done in different
locations, I'm fairly sure the results would have been different.

I'm more "attune" to piano and organ music.  Still, I do badly on the
following video tests.  See if you can tell the difference between
pianos with differing price tags:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd2TL88T9_s>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRekUGLQvM>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KabAlEs9qcc>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPW5A5E7mk>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7XMMZiVaV0>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApGXujZVWf4>
Good luck.

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PO Box 272      http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Dec 24 * Re: Patching TPU innertube6John B.
28 Dec 24 +- Re: Patching TPU innertube1Jeff Liebermann
28 Dec 24 `* Re: Patching TPU innertube4Frank Krygowski
29 Dec 24  `* Re: Patching TPU innertube3John B.
29 Dec 24   +- Re: Patching TPU innertube1Catrike Ryder
29 Dec 24   `- Re: Patching TPU innertube1John B.

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