Sujet : Re: 8 & 9 year old girls riding bicycles
De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 30. Dec 2024, 02:30:59
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 12:15:31 -0600, AMuzi <
am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 12/29/2024 10:05 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 12/28/2024 8:17 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:18:13 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
On 12/28/2024 9:45 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 12/27/2024 10:40 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 12:35:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
As John has related in some detail, if someone does burst
into your home
and threatens violence, having a gun in the home is very
unlikely to help.
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No, that isn't true. I had a gun which was stored in the
bedroom. I
was sitting, eating, at the table, in a different room
when the three
guys kicked the door in and rushed into the house. Had I
been in the
bed room when it happened it would have been a different
story.
>
"Coulda, woulda, shoulda..."
>
You had a gun in your house, probably for "protection." You
are one of the tiny percentage of Americans who ever suffer
a true home invasion. Your gun did you no good, because you
don't go around inside your home with your gun always
within
easy reach. That latter fact is true of almost all gun
owners.
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Deal with it.
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Well, of course it wasn't in "America" ...
And I didn't say you were. I said you were an American.
but I would comment that less
then a month after my "event" some one(ones?) walked up to
a house
about 50 yards from my house and shot and killed everyone
- three
people - in the house.
John, are you pretending that if it had been your house,
your quick draw skills would have made a difference? Really?
And using the term "America" is really, in my experience,
not an
accurate term for actives of the residents. I grew up in a
small New
England town where no one in living memory had been
deliberately shot
but when I worked in rural Georgia I discovered that
people shooting
people was, while not an every day happening, certainly
wasn't rare
either.
IOW, you grew up in an area where people used guns only for
hunting. And you repeatedly use that area as "proof" that
guns in the home are not dangerous. But now you tell us
about an area where guns in the home were or are dangerous.
>
Mr Slocumb didn't say if that Georgia area had negligent
discharges or if those were defensive use.
>
And to your comment about New England 70 years ago versus
our modern urban post-apocalyptic neighborhoods, please
review Mr Otis MacDonald:
>
My point was that when I was growing up there were no firearm
accidents or crimes in my little town. I suppose I left out the "what
happened" question but I'd assumed that Frank was intelligent enough
to ask that question all by himself. As he obviously isn't I shall
attempt to not make statements that I assume Frank is intelligent
enough to understand.
https://reason.com/2014/04/06/otis-mcdonald-rip-the-man-who-got-the-se/
>
https://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=7976
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https://www.britannica.com/event/McDonald-v-City-of-Chicago
>
Or as some write, situations vary. As do humans and their
behavior within those situations.
-- Cheers,John B.