Sujet : Re: 8 & 9 year old girls riding bicycles
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 30. Dec 2024, 02:42:39
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:23:30 GMT, cyclintom <
cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Fri Dec 27 12:51:33 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:25:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Dec 25 14:36:52 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:52:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
... it was common for Jews to kill even people stealing things let alone commiting murder.
Now, please tell me again how biblical Jews were murderers.
Virtually everything you heard about Vietnam is a lie or a myth.
(...)
Stop talking about things you know not the slightest thing about.
Nice change of topic. Getting back on track, could you enlighten me
why you believe that the biblical Jews were murderers? Take your time
and do try to stay on topic.
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A jew that doesn't know the Covenant - an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This was used as an excuse to kill other Jews for their land for failure to donate the first harvest to the temple. Christians killed one another for apotasty.
Wrong. You're using a incorrect definition of murder. The law
protects people who kill others for good reason, such as self defense,
crimes of passion, accidental deaths, some traffic fatalities and
military or police action. None of these labels the alleged killer as
a murderer. It's not like if someone dies, someone else must be
killed in retribution.
This was used as an excuse to kill other Jews for their land for failure to donate the first harvest to the temple.
That would be Shavuot.
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https://reformjudaism.org/jewish-holidays/shavuot/shavuot-history>
"In the time of the Temple in Jerusalem, the ancient Israelites
brought their first fruits (first harvest of their crop) to the Temple
to offer to God at Shavuot, 49 days after Passover."
Where did you get the idea that farmers were expected to deliver their
entire first harvest to the temple? As I vaguely recall, the amount
was limited by what one person could carry in one visit to the temple.
Anyway, it's only of academic interest because the practice ended when
the Romans destroyed the 2nd temple in 70 AD.
Christians killed one another for apotasty.
I'm not sure that would be classified as murder. Was Cain killing
Able considered murder? If it was, why was Cain allowed to live.
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https://www.nationalshrine.org/blog/the-god-of-second-chances-the-story-of-cain-and-abel/>
"Yet even Cains exile was a reflection of Gods boundless mercy.
After Cain murdered Abel, God allowed him to start a new life in a
different place and marked him to prevent him from being killed by
others."
Same with multiple Christian massacres and execution of heretics and
non-believers. That Inquisition and massacre of the Cathars comes to
mind. Again, those are not really considered to be murder and their
perpetrators not considered murderers.
I suggest you find a better choice of words and kindly cease referring
the biblical Jews as murderers.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.comPO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.comBen Lomond CA 95005-0272Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558