Re: Patching TPU innertube

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Sujet : Re: Patching TPU innertube
De : soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Rider)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 31. Dec 2024, 20:12:31
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:00:00 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 12/31/2024 6:25 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:54:03 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>
I read Frankie's violins. If I remember the test correct it was
carried out in a hotel room and the test players got to play each
instrument for something like 1 minute.
>
Perhaps you should read more than one article before wading into a
discussion you know nothing about.
>
These tests have been performed many, many times since the 1800s in
various environments. The most frequent result by far is that
multi-million dollar Strads are not magic.

So, you say, anyway...

From one of the articles I cited, which you apparently did _not_ read:
>
" During 1 week in 2012, they invited 10 professional soloists to
Vincennes, a suburb of Paris, and assembled 13 new violins and nine old
Italians, including six Stradivariuses and two made by Guarneri del
Gesús. The researchers did not tell the musicians that they would be
playing old and new instruments and instructed them to suppose they were
picking an instrument to use on a tour.
>
"The violins were winnowed to six old and six new in a double-blind
listening test judged by the soloists. Then, each of them donned dark
goggles so they couldn't distinguish the instruments by sight and tested
out these top fiddles in two 75-minute sessions, one in a small room and
one in a 300-seat auditorium. (Soloists could also play their own
instruments for comparison.) After each session, the soloists picked his
or her four favorites fiddles and rated them on scale of zero to 10 for
qualities such as articulation, projection, and playability. Finally,
after the second session, each subject had to guess whether instruments
in a small selection that included some of their favorites were old or new."

Wow, 10 professional soloists. I wonder how much they were paid for
their part in "study."

Most likely, some modern violin manufacturer(s) foot the bill. Who
else would do it?

If you read that before, you should have taken notes when reading "75
minute sessions" and "300-seat auditorium."
>
>
So what does 1 minute in a hotel room tell you?
 
It tells you whatever the people who pay for the study want to tell
you.
>
Nothing can be known. All is mystery. Ommmmm...

<LOL> Apparently, Krygowski will believe any collection of data that
coincides with his beliefs. He probably believed the election last
November was going to be close.

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