Sujet : Re: Patching TPU innertube
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 03. Jan 2025, 18:11:39
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On 1/3/2025 11:55 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/3/2025 10:39 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
As I've tried (and tried!) to make clear, most of my remarks have been about people judging between two products that are quite similar.
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Yes and there's the rub. Similar to whom?
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Or backing up a bit, some people pay a lot for Stradivarius violins or rare vintages or what have you _for their own reasons_ by their own criteria. Those criteria go beyond utility, resale value etc. Even your comments include, "...I liked the looks...".
About Strads: Similar to whom? Similar to experts.
More detail: The Strad tests have been done for and by people who were in the upper echelon of classical violin skill and/or appreciation - that is, both players and listeners.
A fiddler at my level would never even be allowed to handle a Strad. And supposedly, since Strads are the most common model for emulating by modern builders, one generally can't tell if one is holding a Strad or a modern copy. (Some modern luthiers take pains to replicate "aging" on their violins.) (Oh, and there are millions of machine-made violins with fake Stradivarius labels inside them. You can look that up.)
As long as we're on the topic, I highly recommend the film _The Red Violin_. It's the story of a similar ancient violin through the ages. The ending is very relevant to this discussion.
-- - Frank Krygowski