Re: 80th Celebration

On 1/6/2025 12:39 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/6/2025 11:12 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Nov 7 07:54:33 2024 Shadow  wrote:

On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
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Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism is his
entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that
social security and medicare make this country a socialism.

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    Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's  99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
    I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
    Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
    Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
    The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media
monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
    Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
    I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)

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Social Security is NOT a socialist program. It is a government plan to FORCE you to save for the future because there are people like Flunky who believe that you should spend anything you have. This adds the benefit of having your employer add half of the SS payments as an additional salary. SS is presently self sustaining though Medicare is not.

 Absolute BS.
It is a socialist program, your payments do not provide for your benefits, it's broke and stretching out a lingering death, actuarily speaking.
 

All I got out of this is that I still live rent free in tommy's head.
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