Sujet : Re: Rene Herse "New type of tire"
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 10. Jan 2025, 17:41:25
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On 1/10/2025 6:52 AM, John B. wrote:
Well, it is true that if there is a gun in the house and some member
of the household decides to "get rid" of another me4mber of the
household it is likely that they will use a gun to do so.
Of course. Which makes murder much more likely as an impulse decision.
BUT... That is not proof that merely having a gun in the house means
that someone in the house is likely to leap up ands start shooting..
As I've said a number of times my family had guns in the house for
three generations. I researched it and that is from 1883 to present,
some 140 years with so firearm deaths.....
The data is out there and it seem odd that the ante gunners can't look
it up.
Oh good grief, John! I've posted data on this time and again!
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/debunking-the-guns-make-us-safer-myth/"And those living with a gun in the home are twice as likely to die by homicide and three times as likely to die by suicide than those living in a gun-free household."
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/01/111286/access-guns-increases-risk-suicide-homicideI've given data and links to data. You've given an anecdote "It didn't happen in my house" and a gun industry platitude "Guns don't kill people."
Trouble is, people with guns _do_ kill people, and do so much more often than people without guns.
-- - Frank Krygowski