Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?

On 1/10/2025 9:45 PM, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:40:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 1/10/2025 2:20 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:01:19 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote:
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"Protected" bike lane hazard lawsuit:
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https://komonews.com/news/local/cyclist-green-lake-neighborhood-king-

county-superior-court-aviv-litov-26-years-old-bike-lanes-life-altering-
injuries-strittmatter-firm-configuration-tesla
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But Frank, didn't you just ask me what I did when a 10 foot wide truck
tried to pass me on a 12 foot road? Apparently your answer is to take the
lane and hope that the truck isn't going too fast to slow in time.

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I asked what you do when an 8.5 foot truck comes up from behind you in a
10 foot lane.
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My answer is to take the lane. I've done it thousands of times. It works.
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What's your answer? Do you get off the road?

   Ah yes... I once described an accident here where two women and two
tiny kids on a motor scooter "took the lane". The truck certainly
attempted to stop, in fact the trailer had tipped over and was still
laying in the road when I came by, but still  wasn't able to stop in
time. The results was 4 people in the hospital, two of which died.
 Your response was,  "Oh! They didn't do it right."
 That's when I realized that your advise really wasn't very good at
all.

As I recall, the woman on the scooter pulled out directly in front of a truck. That's not at all what I do. I default to roughly lane center, what's sometimes known as "primary position." If I"m not already there, I check to be sure it's clear before moving there. This is clearly explained in every legitimate bike education program.
But John, you haven't answered my question either, even though I've asked it countless times. I suppose you don't ride any more, but you certainly did for years.
Back when you rode, were you _never_ in a lane too narrow to share with a wide vehicle, and with no shoulder?
8.5 foot truck, ten foot lane. It's not an uncommon situation.
What did you do?
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- Frank Krygowski