Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?

On 1/11/2025 12:34 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 1/9/2025 2:17 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"Protected" bike lane hazard lawsuit:
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https://komonews.com/news/local/cyclist-green-lake-neighborhood-king-county-superior-court-aviv-litov-26-years-old-bike-lanes-life-altering-injuries-strittmatter-firm-configuration-tesla
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I’m unconvinced by such designs seems asking for trouble and and attempting
to please everyone ie compromise the cycleway for car parking, I’m guessing
nice wide junction with no attempt to slow cars down let alone control it?

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If you're talking about that particular crash, it happened at a parking
lot. "A lawsuit filed in King County Superior Court claims Aviv Litov,
26, was riding on Green Lake Drive North last June when a Tesla SUV
turned into a protected bike lane to access a parking lot."
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So no, not a "nice wide junction." Cyclists hidden from view are at risk
of collisions at every driveway as well as every parking lot and street
intersection.

 It very much was a big wide junction with bonus points of being on a hill
so cyclists will be traveling faster than drivers expect.
 <https://maps.app.goo.gl/v7vuiDVNWNYNFf3TA>

Hmm. Looks to me like the width of access to the parking lot was probably intended to deal with the oddball angled configuration of the lot.
It seems you're saying that entrances to parking lots must be constrained to narrow widths. That's a new one! I don't remember coming across that idea in any bike facility design manuals.
It seems another example of "You built what we were asking for, but it's obviously deadly! You should have known better!"
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- Frank Krygowski