Re: Suspension losses

On 1/12/2025 12:30 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/12/2025 6:22 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 1/11/2025 4:22 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:

Am Sat, 11 Jan 2025 00:06:46 -0500 schrieb zen cycle
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I'm no fan of electronic shifting - it would be just my luck to be on
planed 4-6 hour ride, and have something crap out at the furthest point
from the car/house. That said, I'm never going back to discrete shifters.

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It isn't that difficult to carry a CR2032 and a tiny 25 g rechargeable
battery somewhere. The coin cell lasts about two years, the battery is
good for about 800-1000 km. Both warn early via LED on the device or via
a Garmin Edge computer, for not having to care during a 4-6 hour ride.
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I can't tell you how many times I leave the house and forget my wallet. Adding trying to remember to carry a spare battery is only part of the problem though.
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The other issue is the failure rates associated with a complex electro-mechanical systems VS a simple cable derailleur system. (Since I conduct FMEDAs as part of my role, I'm well-aware of the exponential failure rates associated with increased complexity).
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Since I've been seriously riding in the early 1980's, I've never had a problem associated with a shifting mechanism that I couldn't handle with a simple road/trail side repair, except for the few times when I've sheared the derailleur off in the woods. If your E-shifting mechanism fails for any reason other than the battery going dead, you're pretty much stick in whenever gear it left you in.
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I don't begrudge anyone for wanting E-shifting. I think it's a great technological advancement. The few times I've ridden E-shifting systems, I've been impressed with the accuracy, repeatability, and quickness of the shifts. But I don't see those advantages of being worth the extra cost and risk of failure. That's just my opinion, YMMV.

 Modern electronic shift systems work. They're different from mechanical but IMHO neither better nor worse, just different.

Which is why I wrote "The few times I've ridden E-shifting systems, I've been impressed with the accuracy, repeatability, and quickness of the shifts. "

 https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec/how-i-survived-a-dead-sram-etap- battery/
 https://www.reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/p0vxtq/ shimano_di2_options_when_battery_dies_mid_trip/
 "One temporary solution would be to find someone that has a Di2, unplug their and your rear derailleur and plug in their cable into your derailleur. You can then change to the comfortable gear and ride back home. "