Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?

On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:55:41 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 1/10/2025 9:45 PM, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:40:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 1/10/2025 2:20 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:01:19 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote:
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"Protected" bike lane hazard lawsuit:
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https://komonews.com/news/local/cyclist-green-lake-neighborhood-king-

county-superior-court-aviv-litov-26-years-old-bike-lanes-life-

altering-

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But Frank, didn't you just ask me what I did when a 10 foot wide
truck tried to pass me on a 12 foot road? Apparently your answer is
to take the lane and hope that the truck isn't going too fast to slow
in time.

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I asked what you do when an 8.5 foot truck comes up from behind you in
a 10 foot lane.
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My answer is to take the lane. I've done it thousands of times. It
works.
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What's your answer? Do you get off the road?

 
 
 
Ah yes... I once described an accident here where two women and two
tiny kids on a motor scooter "took the lane". The truck certainly
attempted to stop, in fact the trailer had tipped over and was still
laying in the road when I came by, but still  wasn't able to stop in
time. The results was 4 people in the hospital, two of which died.
 
Your response was,  "Oh! They didn't do it right."
 
That's when I realized that your advise really wasn't very good at all.

 
As I recall, the woman on the scooter pulled out directly in front of a
truck. That's not at all what I do. I default to roughly lane center,
what's sometimes known as "primary position." If I"m not already there,
I check to be sure it's clear before moving there. This is clearly
explained in every legitimate bike education program.
 
But John, you haven't answered my question either, even though I've
asked it countless times. I suppose you don't ride any more, but you
certainly did for years.
 
Back when you rode, were you _never_ in a lane too narrow to share with
a wide vehicle, and with no shoulder?
 
8.5 foot truck, ten foot lane. It's not an uncommon situation.
 
What did you do?

Frank, you claimed to have ridden coast to coast. With your claims of the
way you ride I simply cannot believe you did that because over a large
part of that trip you have to ride on main roads and you're obviously
still alive and drivers would not put up with someone that rides a dead
slow touring bike taking the lane. Even route 66  which is a nothing road
with little traffic on it would be the end of you.