Re: Suspension losses

Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 1/13/2025 2:48 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:

Am Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:27:27 -0500 schrieb Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>:

 
As I said, I hate the Kleenex ethic - "It's no good any more, just throw
it away."

 
A strawman isn't getting any more pretty, over time. You won't find many
complex products, machines, vehicles or components with an unlimited
lifetime.  Product lifetime has to be planned. There is innovation,
innovation means change.  There are technical limits. So far, I haven't
heard about bicycle tires that tolerate heavy use over a lifetime of 40
years, as you ask for.  To be precise, I don't know of any that I would
like to use or that I would risk using.

 
I think my Cannondale touring bike qualifies. Of course I've replaced
consumable items like tires, chains, cogs, brake shoes, handlebar tape
and occasionally a chainring.

 
That way, any bicycle qualifies.

 
I agree! Or at least, I agree about most bikes. That's one of the things
I love about bicycling in general, compared to (say) automobiles.
 

There is essentially no part of a  bicycle that isn't "consumable". 

 
I disagree. I don't expect to ever wear out the frame, fork, handlebars,
stem, seatpost, hubs, pedals, front derailleur, and maybe not the rear
derailleur. I may someday wear out the bottle dynamo on that bike (it's
decades old) but maybe not.

Wear out can also mean gets damaged, I’ve replaced 4 rear mech’s due to
rock strikes/getting clogged and wrapped around the cassette.

Likewise folks can and do damage frames, even metal ones, or if steel can
corroded to a point that isn’t much to be done and so on.

The old Commute MTB which is “grandfathers axe” has original
frame/stem/bars

 
There were items I changed out of preference (like the original downtube
shifters) but it wasn't because they were worn out. Those would have
lasted forever.

Probably the slower shifts would hide some of lack of snappiness you get
from older shifters/mech my old school bike who’s front mech’s is
definitely not quite right and shifts really quite slowly is about the same
as the friction shifting, I had on the old steel bike which felt fine.

 

Snips

Roger Merriman