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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:13:57 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>And that's mostly radiant heat, which to me feels best of all.
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:58:35 -0500, Frank KrygowskiI don't know whether you know this but when using a stove to heat a
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On 1/13/2025 12:06 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:>You, as a person, don't need or consume heat. Somewhat simplified, you>
need a certain range of temperatures. In the ideal case, you don't need
any additional energy, because your body already produces heat. A little
bit of isolation, perhaps provided by that very blanket, might be
sufficient.
And, I suppose, we could do away with all home heating, and just wear
very heavy clothing all winter. But I don't know of anyone doing that.
I'm currently doing something similar to save firewood, which costs
about $500/cord delivered. My bed has multiple layers of blanket and
a goose feather duvet. During the day at home, I wear a padded jacket
and fleece lined pants. I'm constantly moving around so I tend to
warm myself. I usually wear a wool hat indoors to keep my head warm.
At about sundown, the temperature drops sufficiently to require
additional heat. The wood burner runs in the evening for about 5 hrs
until I fall into the bed. If I have guests during the day, I start a
fire in the wood burner. The reason this works for me is that the
temperatures are quite mild during most of the winter.
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room put the stove in the opposite side of the room from the chimney.
Then run the stovepipe from the stove straight up from the stove to
the ceiling and then along the ceiling, using mounts to separate the
stove pipe and ceiling, of course, across the room to the chimney.
That way you get more heat from the same amount of wood.
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1 Jan 25 | ![]() | 219 | Frank Krygowski | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() | 214 | Roger Merriman | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 213 | AMuzi | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 211 | bp | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 210 | AMuzi | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 9 | bp | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 8 | Frank Krygowski | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Roger Merriman | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 6 | bp | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 5 | Frank Krygowski | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | AMuzi | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 3 | Radey Shouman | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 | Frank Krygowski | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Catrike Rider | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 190 | Frank Krygowski | |
2 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 | AMuzi | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | bp | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | bp | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 185 | Jeff Liebermann | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 180 | Frank Krygowski | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 15 | AMuzi | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 14 | Jeff Liebermann | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 12 | AMuzi | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 11 | Frank Krygowski | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | AMuzi | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 9 | Jeff Liebermann | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 6 | zen cycle | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 3 | AMuzi | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
6 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | John B. | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 | AMuzi | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | zen cycle | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 163 | Jeff Liebermann | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 157 | Frank Krygowski | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 156 | Jeff Liebermann | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 154 | Frank Krygowski | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 153 | Jeff Liebermann | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 151 | zen cycle | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 149 | Jeff Liebermann | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Shadow | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 147 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
11 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 142 | Frank Krygowski | |
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11 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 27 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 4 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Roger Merriman | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 22 | zen cycle | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 17 | AMuzi | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | zen cycle | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 14 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
14 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 12 | Roger Merriman | |
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12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
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12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
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14 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 | Roger Merriman | |
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12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
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14 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Catrike Ryder | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 19 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
13 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 18 | Frank Krygowski | |
12 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 69 | Jeff Liebermann | |
11 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | zen cycle | |
11 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | zen cycle | |
13 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 | Jeff Liebermann | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
10 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Frank Krygowski | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 5 | Jeff Liebermann | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Wolfgang Strobl | |
5 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 4 | zen cycle | |
6 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | AMuzi | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 9 | Zen Cycle | |
4 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Jeff Liebermann | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 1 | Roger Merriman | |
3 Jan 25 | ![]() ![]() | 4 | Frank Krygowski |
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