Re: Suspension losses

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Sujet : Re: Suspension losses
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 16. Jan 2025, 10:21:37
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:05:22 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 1/15/2025 3:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
 
On 1/15/2025 12:12 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 1/14/2025 7:12 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>
The only downside I’ve noted but this is definitely anecdotal than
statistically significant is of my fellow Gravel club mates which is
relatively small group two of which have had derailleurs electronic
failures, both where covered under warranty, but does bring with it a new
and extra failure point.
I guess a fair comparison would be to ask how many of your gravel mates
have had failures of cable actuated mechanical derailleurs.
>
>
None I upgraded my rear mech to GRX to get more range out of the rear mech
and to get a “clutch” in Shimano speak essentially the rear mech is tighter
so keeps the chain away from the chainstay so is a quieter operation on
jiggly/rattly bits.
"None" is good to know. So there were electronic derailleur failures,
but no mechanical derailleur failures. That gives us a hint about
relative reliability.
 
Here's two other ideas.
 
1) if you disapprove of electronic shifting, don't buy them.
 
2) The fact that you disapprove of them is not going to stop other
people from buying them.
>
IOW, we are not allowed to discuss reliability of bike parts?

1) Usage by a half dozen or so of Roger's friends doesn't even begin
to define reliability.

2) It's already been established that among a half dozen or so of
Roger's friends, two had electronic shift failures and none had cable
shift failures, so what more is there to discuss?

Sheesh. Get over your obsession with me, you miserable old man.

IOW, am I not allowed to discusss your continuous complaining about
what other people do?

It seems to me that it's Krygowski who lives a miserable, unhappy
existence.

A good share of his RBT posts involve him whining and complaining
about something.
He doesn't like how the bicycling trends are heading;
he doesn't like the frame designs;
he doesn't like the newer bicycle components; he doesn't like the
newer accessories;
he doesn't like bicycle helmets, flashy biking shirts, or SPD shoes
and pedals;
he doesn't like the bicycle infrastructure trends;
he doesn't like bicycle trails;
he  dislikes dogs and black pickup trucks;
he doesn't like guns;
he doesn't like the marketing of anything;
he complains about people buying lottery tickets;
he doesn't like how other people select wine or their favorite
sounding violin;
he clearly dislikes the current political trends;
he hates people who ignore his advice;
he hates that people drive instead riding their bikes to their jobs or
the grocery store.
When he's not complaining about something, he trying to get people to
change their minds and agree with him, which doesn't happen very
often, so then he whines and complains about that. His brags and lies
are scattered among his constant complaints and attempts to manipulate
others.
His need for imaginary friends is hardly surprising. He has probably
driven away all the people who know him.


--
C'est bon
Soloman

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