Re: Designed to be not repairable

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Sujet : Re: Designed to be not repairable
De : roger (at) *nospam* sarlet.com (Roger Merriman)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 16. Jan 2025, 10:37:02
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/15/2025 5:09 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
On 1/15/2025 2:42 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Update on this contentious issue:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/consumer/
article-14288851/john- deere-backlash-practice-tractor-
machinery-repair-sued-ftc.html
It is total crook of garbage. These ought to be able to be
worked on by anyone. The proprietary stuff is arrogant and
in the same way I dislike Specialized bike. They want to
cause you to go down their narrow path.
 
 
I'm inclined to agree on general principles. Usually I'd
suggest just buying the competitor's product. Good luck with
that now.
 
But modern equipment such as Deere products or autos or
Kenworths are extremely complex and their controls,
monitors, system processors and error logs and software
represent a huge investment.  Most manufacturers count on
licensing fees or maintenance charges to recoup some of that
expense.
 
Another factor is liability, especially regarding EPA
compliance, which is a delicate balance between the real
world of cost and performance and the paper world fines,
penalties, forced recalls, bans etc.
 
Then there's warranty. Changes in software settings can and
likely will affect the machinery's efficiency, wear rates
and such.
 
As I wrote here previously, this is not at all a simple
'good guys vs bad guys' problem.
 

Well written indeed some things clearly should be consumer repairable
others can see why it’s less clear, but at the very least should be offered
a fairly reasonable repair option.

The bike lights I use offer that option as they sell to MTB etc folks who
do damage things even if it’s fairly sturdy mine has significant dent in
its case though works fine.

But I have had another light repaired after I foolishly left a weather seal
open during a storm and it got water damaged.

Roger Merriman


Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Jan 25 * Designed to be not repairable5AMuzi
16 Jan 25 `* Re: Designed to be not repairable4Mark J cleary
16 Jan 25  +* Re: Designed to be not repairable2AMuzi
16 Jan 25  i`- Re: Designed to be not repairable1Roger Merriman
16 Jan 25  `- Re: Designed to be not repairable1Frank Krygowski

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