Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.

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Sujet : Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 17. Jan 2025, 09:43:12
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:54:40 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:58:03 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:57:50 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:46:45 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>
Incidentally, the author is also responsible for the Spurious
Correlations web site:
<https://tylervigen.com>
>
"The number of bicycle repairers in California correlates with..."
<https://tylervigen.com/spurious/variable?id=5582>
Scroll down the list for various correlations.
>
The highest correlation (r=0.964) is with "The number of like on Mark
Rober YouTube videos:"
<https://tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/7307_the-number-of-bicycle-repairers-in-california_correlates-with_the-average-number-of-likes-on-mark-rober-youtube-videos>
>
wow! Who could have guessed? What does all that mean?
>
It means correlation does not imply causation.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation>
Just because the trend lines for the number of likes on Mark Rober's
YouTube videos statistically correlates closely to the trend line for
the number of bicycle repair techs in California does no mean that one
can use future bicycle repair statistics to predict the number of
bicycle repair techs in the future.

Huh? Where do I find those future bicycle repair statistics?

You almost had me there. I think you didn't say what you meant to say,
but if I understand what you meant to say, I agree, I think...

The first requirement is to establish that the two events are related
in any way.

The page of confusing statistics, numbers, formulas, etc are all about
where he obtained his data and how he calculated how close the two
trend lines match.  That's the right way to "show your work" when one
makes a claim.  I wish there were more such calculations.
>
Mark Rober's videos on building squirrel proof bird feeders, exploding
glitter bombs to discourage porch pirates, and various over-engineered
gadgets are intended for kids, but are equally interesting to adults:
<https://www.youtube.com/@MarkRober/playlists>
<https://www.youtube.com/@MarkRober/videos>
He's one of the few adults that have the "knack" for getting kids
interested in engineering.
<https://www.crunchlabs.com>

Cool dude. Good stuff. No, really good stuff. I'm going to watch some
more.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Jan 25 * Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.21Radey Shouman
14 Jan 25 +* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.2AMuzi
15 Jan 25 i`- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Roger Merriman
15 Jan 25 +* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.2Frank Krygowski
16 Jan 25 i`- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Radey Shouman
16 Jan 25 `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.16Jeff Liebermann
16 Jan 25  +* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.4Roger Merriman
16 Jan 25  i+- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Frank Krygowski
16 Jan 25  i+- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Rolf Mantel
18 Jan 25  i`- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Jeff Liebermann
16 Jan 25  `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.11Radey Shouman
16 Jan 25   `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.10Jeff Liebermann
16 Jan 25    `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.9Jeff Liebermann
16 Jan 25     +* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.2Zen Cycle
17 Jan 25     i`- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Jeff Liebermann
16 Jan 25     `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.6Catrike Ryder
17 Jan 25      `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.5Jeff Liebermann
17 Jan 25       `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.4Catrike Ryder
17 Jan 25        `* Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.3Jeff Liebermann
17 Jan 25         +- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Catrike Ryder
17 Jan 25         `- Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.1Jeff Liebermann

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