Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 19:14:06 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 1/16/2025 5:53 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:17:50 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 5:06 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:04:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 3:51 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:15:12 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 2:05 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 11:27:20 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 4:39 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:28:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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I'm reminded about a parable about a poor widow contributing two tiny
coins, a trivial amount, but “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put
more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their
wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to
live on.”

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So she starved? WTF? Are you really OK with that?

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Good point: WTF!
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I'll bet you think the guy who told that tale should have been
crucified, right?

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Good grief, Krygowski, you have no idea who made that story up.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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[raises hand]
Uh, Mark?
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https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-12-42/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-12-43/

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Could be, but there's condiderable doubt.
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An early church tradition, deriving from Papias of Hierapolis
(c.60–c.130 AD),[6] regards the Gospel as based on the preaching of
Saint Peter, and written down by John Mark, who is named in the Acts
of the Apostles as a companion of Saint Peter.[7][8][9] Most critical
scholars reject this tradition, and it is generally agreed that it was
written anonymously for a gentile audience, probably in Rome, sometime
shortly before or after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70
AD.[10][b]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark
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As for me, I don;t knoe and I don't care who wrote it. I evaluate it
on it's own standing, as I do on most everything.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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Well, yes much is unknown and will most probably remain so.
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And we are all familiar with the most egregious translation
errors in King James.
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But the composition, wordcraft and phrasing is fundamental
to understanding English literature, without regard to
history, accuracy or truth in the original.

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I regard the Bible as a history book, but I take it all with several
grains of salt. It seems to me that a lot of it was written to
frighten people into towing the line.
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I believe that today, Christianity is a force for good, but I base
that belief on what I witness, not what I'm told.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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I could argue both sides. But I don't much care.
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However, as literature, it is the basis of modern English,
printed in large numbers, for many years, especially in
times when other works were much less numerous nor widely
read. Truly, everything about English lit, and much of
modern English itself, traces to King James.

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King James and his translators/editors.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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+1 to that.
He personally had nothing whatsoever to do with it besides
hiring the most erudite scholars available.

 I understand that he made decisions about what was to be included and
what was not. There are a lot of testaments from that era that he did
not put in his Bible for various reasons. Even some of Paul's letters
were excluded.
 King James was a Protestant, so his Bible is likely slanted in that
direction, too. I don't recall seeing a lot of Catholic specific
doctrine in the Bible, such as praying to Mary and the other Saints.
 I distinctly remember, as a very young child seeing illogical and
hypocritical religious stuff presented to me and being frightened that
I was going to go to hell simply because I noted them. Sometime later
I carefully read the entire new testament and then noted, among other
things, that "Jesus" was never quoted as mentioning Hell. It's very
much an Old Testament thing.
 I also noticed, at some time in my early years, that although the
teachings require an individual to ask for forgiveness and acknowledge
Jesus as a holy being, Jesus, according to scripture, asked for
forgiveness *FOR* the people who were killing him (see Sixth
Commandment) because they denied his holy status.
 Anyone who managed to get through my off_on_a-tangent_ stuff above
should note that I do not encourage anyone to walk away from their
belief systems. Most people know that the Bible is full of illogical
stuff, so my meanderings shouldn't bother them.
 Required bicycle related content below:
 It's been suggested that there's something wrong with me because I
seek solitude and long uninterrupted bike rides. Above is just a small
sample of the kind of observations I feel the need to contemplate. I
revently discovered that I could voice command notes on my phone while
riding and thus no longer forget to look up the stuff I was
contemplating.
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C'est bon
Soloman