Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"

On 1/17/2025 11:10 AM, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 08:34:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 1/17/2025 6:37 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 08:43:56 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 03:35:30 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 20:26:27 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 5:54 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/16/2025 4:24 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
... it really is fundamental to understanding English literature.

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I wonder how many here have actually read it.

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I wonder why you wonder about that. What other people believe and why
they believe it is none of my business. Why do you think it's your
business?

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Because what people believe is the reason why there are mass
murders ......
If everyone was an atheist, most of the wars would have never
existed. People could have spent their time important things like
population control, health research and education.

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I believe most wars have been fought of some individuals' aspiration
to control other individuals, their minds, and their property, which
includes their labor. Religion has indeed been a motivator of those
aspirations, but love of money and power is also a very big motivator
of them.
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PS Did you know that Uruguay prohibited any form of religion
in government- owned places? They have no Christmas, no Easter, no
religious holidays at all.
And because of that it has the highest life quality (HDI) of
South America.

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For what it's worth, I also don't think government should celebrate or
honor religious holidays. Relgious leaders would then be compelled to
move the celebrations to weekends when governments are being even more
worthless than on weekdays.
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... and is more democratic than the US.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index>
[]'s

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At least according to that company's standards.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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+1
The wiki fiction machine cannot be trusted.

  Which is why I read the references, not so much the text.
The Economist is a serious publication, though it does tend to
the right.

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Regarding religion and persecution, none more deadly than
communism, the most vicious religion:
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106169.The_Black_Book_of_Communism

  I've never met a communist. So I have no idea if communism
ever existed.
Communism is the bogie-man. It sleeps under your bed and comes
out at night to suck your soul. And if you've never seen it, it's
because it's invisible.
  The book 1984 was supposed to be about communism. An
all-powerful state that paid (a LOT) to private companies to
surveillance the population so they could eliminate any that went
against the Masters. The Masters grew so rich, there where thousands
of billionaires, and tens of thousands of people that lived off the
luxury the billionaires could afford.
And then you do a double take, and think. Wait a minute,
that's not communism, that's "democracy" today.
LOL.
 <https://thumbsnap.com/i/WgRuCjwj.png?0117>

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Although the Green religion (get rid of humans to preserve a
perfect earth) might well catch up on that death toll.

  Not if it's done by birth control. The Earth can only support
a finite number of humans....
Unfortunately only the most intelligent are doing anything
about it. If you don't think the US will become an Idiocracy, look who
got voted in as President.... worse, who voted him in.
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"The Economist... does tend to the right."
Oy! Words fail. Everyone else says strong left bias.
If 1984 depicted your ideal democracy, I can't (or won't) comment.
" The Earth can only support a finite number of humans...."
Logically, yes.
That limit is a much larger number than pessimists have predicted.
Imminent doom has been wrong repeatedly. Everything was supposed to collapse at 4 billion, at 5 billion, at 6 billion, etc. Still waiting.
The Malthusians ignore human innovation. World grain production increases every year on less land with less labor. World protein consumption rises every year despite more people.
Brasil is an excellent example by the way, a leader:
https://tradingeconomics.com/brazil/population
(set chart to "max")
More povo brasileiro, more agricultural innovation and productivity.
https://anec.com.br/article/brazilian-grain-exports-2022-2023
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