Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"

On 1/17/2025 12:30 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Thu Jan 16 13:20:08 2025 Shadow  wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:28:57 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 1/16/2025 5:25 AM, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:28:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 1/15/2025 6:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/15/2025 5:24 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 1/15/2025 3:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 1/15/2025 1:02 PM, Shadow wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:57:39 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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<about who is responsible for running over cyclists>
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This is especially common among illegals here in California with these
assholes laying on the horn even when yoyu're nowhere near them.

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  ????The only solution is to raise taxes the rich pay. Then you
could fund essential services like the police, and any unlawful
extraterrestrial will be promptly arrested for driving without a
license. And shuttled back to Mars or whatever.
  ????Problem solved. Plus there might even be some money left to
pay for medical services, education and your welfare checks.
  ????[]'s

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Without regard to this argument per se, isn't your preferred solution
to everything "Tax the rich" ?

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It's a good one. How much money do Musk, Bezos, etc. really need? For
what?
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You've written that previously.
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I've noted previously that the top 10% of earners represent over half of
income tax revenue:
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https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/MPowG/5/
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In California where policy is closer to your tastes, the problem of
collecting revenues shows the complex mix of factors:
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/leaving-rich-americans-ditching-
california-163000441.html
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Note in link, "Ultra-wealthy Californians, the top 1%, typically pay
between 40-50% of the state?s personal income tax revenue."

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I'd say the solution is for the competing states to raise their upper
level tax rates.
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I ask again, how much is enough? What's the limiting principle?

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How much personal wealth is enough? Why is there no limit?
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I'm reminded about a parable about a poor widow contributing two tiny
coins, a trivial amount, but ?Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put
more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their
wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything?all she had to
live on.?
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Taxing the wealthy and super-wealthy means they may have to put off
buying their hundredth bottle of Chateau Lafite Rothschild (whose taste
they probably can't reliably distinguish anyway). Taxing the poorer
people means they have to put off buying a can of soup.
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So let's emulate the tax structures of prosperous countries with far,
far less income disparity. I believe those policies contribute to much
better social services, much lower crime and unrest, better paved roads,
free medical care, etc.

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    LOL. Right wingers are psychopaths. by definition. The reason
why humans became the most powerful beings on Earrth is because their
innate socialism (the willingness to share, to help others even if it
meant suffering a bit) was stronger than their egoism.
    It's impossible to convince a right winger to be "human". His
brain is not capable of being one.
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    PS Bezos never produced anything in his life. He just passed
on other people's goods and took a very large cut. He also pays the
smallest salaries possible. Rather a bad example of someone that
should continue evading tax.

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Humans do organize and create language, universally. You're
right on that. But dramatic increases in prosperity,
invention, development and human flourishing generally
result from private property rights and individual effort.
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Else North Korea would be more wealthy than Brasil.

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    If Einstein had been born in America he would have been the
best flag-saluting moron ever!!!
    And he would probably be choir-boy of the decade....
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    Luckily he was born in Germany and received a GOOD FREE state
education (first in Germany, then in Switzerland).
    []'s
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    PS I often wondered what Bezos invented. Greed you say? Are
you sure he was not plagiarizing someone else?

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American education is free up until college and those with genius EASILY obtain subsidies to college. What makes you think otherwise?

 Oakland must be special.
 For every property I've ever owned*, the property tax goes primarily to the failed government school system.

 Current lawsuit:
https://ctmirror.org/2024/12/13/aleysha-ortiz-ct-grad-cant-read-lawsuit/
 Hartford's numbers are inexcusably pathetic but a lot better than Chicago CPS.
  *When I rented, I paid more because rent is capital base return plus property tax plus a retail markup.