Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others

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De : roger (at) *nospam* sarlet.com (Roger Merriman)
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Date : 21. Jan 2025, 21:36:49
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 1/21/2025 10:46 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/21/2025 10:00 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/21/2025 5:09 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
 
Indeed lots of stuff has to a extent a view point, sort
of related saw that
as New York is apparently going to have a congestion
charge, some news
outlets have been looking at London’s which is now 20+
years old, and by
any measure has worked and worked well ie cut numbers and
made the air
cleaner.
 
And the news reports are hilariously biased ie trying to
find anyone who
will say it’s bad!
 
Roger Merriman
 
 
[raises hand] I will.
 
Why?
 
 
General defense of liberty.
'too many cars'??  Who decides that?
'this car, but not that car' ? Who decides that?
 
They aren’t preventing you, after all the cost isn’t huge. It’s £15 which
one could easily spend getting a drink and bun in cafe or getting two
drinks in a pub in that area it’s not even all of central london.

Unfortunately much like bus lanes/gates or parking restrictions and speed
limits/bike filters and lanes, to pedestrian areas, it comes down to what
you build and legislate for, cars are hugely expensive and wasteful.

Using that space particularly once your in central for private motor
vehicles does become hard to justify as the mode share declines rapidly
further in you go. Even bikes in central london locations outnumber them,
let alone public transport or walking.

Roger Merriman

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