Sujet : Re: Press Release
De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 03. Feb 2025, 15:22:01
Autres entêtes
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 07:46:18 -0600, AMuzi <
am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 2/2/2025 7:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 09:19:24 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 2/1/2025 7:41 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 07:48:55 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 2/1/2025 5:01 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On 1 Feb 2025 08:00:54 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:26:26 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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https://nplusbikes.com/collections/electric-bikes/products/city-edition
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If they're giving them away, you can have mine.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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Im bit confused as to their market to be honest, but Im possibly out of
touch but while I see E MTB in that sort of price range, and Cargo bikes
both of which make sense, carbon E bikes for commuting? Im less convinced
by and certainly dont see examples on Londons streets.
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To be fair the speed limiter would come into play, the folks who cycling in
to the city from South West London would be averaging that sort of speed
some above. As the roads cycle lanes allow for moving fast, so one can
cycle the 15/20 miles in a hour ish.
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Roger Merriman
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If I ever want to ride a fast motorcycle again, I think I'd go with a
Ducati this time.
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https://www.motorrad-bilder.at/slideshows/291/014424/ducati-monster-1200-s-2017-zubehoer-1.jpg
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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Yep, as so often the best choice is usually Italian.
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Yep... to be made in Thailand :-)
https://www.bikewale.com/news/ducati-scrambler-will-be-made-in-thailand/
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Given Italian taxes and labor law, that makes perfect sense.
For the same reason Campagnolo product is made in Romania
(with Italian engineering and tooling).
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Average industrial labor wage :
USA $28.34
Italy $16.96
Romania $10.40
Thailand $2.69
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https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/wages-in-manufacturing
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https://economicsinsider.com/average-salary-rankings-in-europe-top-and-lowest-paying-countries/
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NB-
With some uncertainty. I assumed 40 hour week and 2000 hour
year ("union year") but IIRC Thai and other Asian workers
commonly work longer per day and six day weeks so wage above
may in fact be lower. And AFAIK, being a long term
customer, Thai labor is no less skilled.
Yup! I pointed out the difference in labor costs between the U.S. and
Mexico (in my comparison) and a Thai comparison would be even greater
- minimum salary is now risen to a high of 337 -,400 baht a day,
depending on location. At 33.6 baht = 1 USD that is $10 - $11.9 a day.
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Or something just under $1.50/hr.
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(I used industrial labor for numbers above, not minimum wage)
I used minimum wage because that is what the nearly all employees here
get. Although a company may give various added "benefits", say three
meals a day, holiday bonus, etc. There are no Unions or other
employee's organizations.
When our "housekeeper" had been with us for about a year my wife told
me to give her a 1,000 baht New Years bonus and increase her salary by
100 baht per day. The old gal almost kissed me :-) She is still with
me and almost part of the family :-)
-- Cheers,John B.