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On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 17:45:35 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 09:47:05 -0500, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>On 2/4/2025 12:24 AM, John B. wrote:>On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 20:55:56 -0500, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
On 2/3/2025 12:55 PM, cyclintom wrote:>>
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Noone "wins" an argument about opinions. Is that what you think you're doing by arguing that Catrike shouldn't be carrying a gun despite a Constitutional Amendment giving him the right to do so? Your opinion appears to be counter to the Constitution and you believe that you're winning something? Murder rates tend to be lowest in areas with the most highly rural populations so zsparate people and you don't have violent confrontations. Gun laws make little to no diffrence.
I'm just pointing out that almost all people who carry guns do so
because they are afraid. In nearly all cases, they are afraid of things
that never happen. That's phobia.
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And I'm aware I'm violating my resolution to stop responding to, um, a
certain type of person. I'll try to do better.
... would you answer just a few little questions?
(1)
According to a new Washington Post-Ipsos poll released on
Monday....found that 32 percent of adults report owning guns.
Could you tell us what portion of these gun owners you interviewed to
determine how many actually carry a gun.
(2) Did you determine what, if anything, these gun carriers were
afraid of? Fear does very a great deal depending on circumstances you
know.
Or is just another example of Frankie blathering on about a subject
that he knows nothing about trying to impress the readers with his
vast knowledge?
John, I don't see the point of your question #1. I didn't make any
claims about the number of people carrying guns. Why are you trying to
bring up that number?
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As to what gun "protection" fans are afraid of, read the article I
linked in another post - the one the tricycle rider is purportedly
AFRAID to click! It quotes LaPierre listing the oh so scary things that
justify carrying a gun: "We know in the world that surrounds us there
are terrorists and there are home invaders, drug cartels, carjackers,
knockout gamers, and rapers, and haters, and campus killers, airport
killers, shopping mall killers..."
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Remember, that guy is on your side of the argument, And yet, in the text
of the article, the NRA admits that the chance of needing a gun against
such things is beyond infinitesmal. And understand that we people who do
not have phobias about those terrible dangers do just fine. Exceptions
exist, but they are too rare to justify bothering with a gun - and
risking the chance that the gun will do more harm than good.
I guess Krygowski doesn't understand the meanng of "infinitesmal" any
better than junior.
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At any rate, if Krygowski is worried about that "the gun will do more
harm than good," he doesn't have to own one. In fact, I'd just as soon
he didn't for just that very reason.
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As for justifying a gun, I only have to justify it to myself... and
I do.
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As yet, I see no reason for me to not carry a gun on my bike rides, so
I will continue to do it, as I did today.
The point that I believe you are missing is that Frank interprets
everything in terms that he understands. He knows almost nothing about
firearms and hates them and thus, I believe, would have to be
terrified in order for him to carry a gun... I would even go a bit
further and say that even if in a dangerious situation would be even
more terrified of the gun and thus would be unlikely to arm himself in
any case.
So, in this case we have Frankie., the coward who is terrified of
firearms, disparaging others who may be (lets face it) braver then he.
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