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On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 11:23:59 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:REad up on what the Armstrong USPS/Motorola team was doing in the 90's/00's. It wasn't just them. During the Armstrong era doping was so endemic that every other rider on the podium during Armstrongs win streak had been suspended or under investigation for doping at one time or another except for one rider - Fernando Escartín
On 2/14/2025 11:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:That's true. I wouldn't consider taking potentially dangerous drugsOn Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:30:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:>
>On 2/14/2025 10:15 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:>On 2/13/2025 7:00 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:>>>
Time Trials no the road isn’t closed they have code names
harking back to
it being illegal, and be large dual carriageways,
depending on the location
might be held earlier in the day, though not always.
Some here might not know about the days when time trialing
was illegal in the UK. Roger might want to give a quick
summary of the situation and the work-arounds.
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Today in the U.S. some advocates have pointed out a
potential disadvantage of having a bicycle legally defined
as a vehicle: It may make bicyclists in technical violation
of certain anti-racing laws - for example, when a cyclist
and a buddy sprint for the next telephone pole. In at least
some states, advocacy organizations closely monitor proposed
traffic laws to ensure that certain ones apply only to
_motor_ vehicles.
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Illegal? In my youth, TT was widely popular in England and
moreso there than anywhere else!
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https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2018/09/10/the-surprising-origins-of-time-trials/
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https://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/cms/ctt/history
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And back to the earlier point, TT in traffic can result in
some startling times even though riders are sort of honor
(honour) bound not to draft. Which is why English TT times
regularly beat world and Olympic records in those days.
Are time trial racers also honor bound not to use performance
enhancing drugs and gasses? The discussion is about using carbon
monoxide to temporarily increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the
racers blood. I would guess(tm) that such things are not worth the
risk.
To you.
and gasses simply to improve my score. However, you're suggesting
that there are racers who do consider it worthwhile. As it should be
obvious by now, I know very little about time trial racing and racers.
I can only say that I'm amazed at what racers will do to win. Thanks
for the info and insights.
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