Re: Ove Interest?

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 23:09:07 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 2/14/2025 12:30 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 2/14/2025 10:58 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/13/2025 10:15 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 2/13/2025 12:04 AM, John B. wrote:

I wonder whether the below is of interest to anyone?
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/5/25/how- alternative-facts-
threaten-us-democracy
It seems to provide a very sad state for the U.S. political system.

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pffffft.
Peruse any 'fact check' site to see how the most slanted bias prefers
to call itself 'fair and objective'.

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Examples? And examples of their bias?
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Did Trump really get millions more votes than Biden in 2020?
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Are most glaciers worldwide not really shrinking?
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Did COVID treatments really kill more people than the disease did?
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ISTM that most people who complain about common fact checking outlets
really mean "My beliefs conflict with their facts."
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This is not a new problem. And should surprise no one.
 
https://www.allsides.com/blog/6-ways-fact-checkers-are-biased

Ah. Well, that's one opinion piece. Is it accurate? How should we check?
Shall we go down that rabbit hole?
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I'll agree there is bias across the political - and probably every other
- spectrum. But as usual, I think it's foolish to point to one or
several incidences of failure and use that, as some do, to condemn an
entire system.
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You, Andrew, have a tendency to do that with laws, with implications
that because a certain law is not 100% obeyed or enforced, that laws are
worthless. (I'm aware that you're careful not to say that outright, but
only by implication.)
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Our tricycle rider has a strong tendency to do that with any information
source other than his own imagination. He proudly says or implies that
no outside sources can be trusted, and that he alone can tell what facts
are real and true.
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Again, bias exists. But there are actual truths, and not every opinion
is correct. On most issues, it should be possible to do sufficient
tests, or research, to determine what is true and what is not. The
hardest part is finding people who will agree that their own biases are
mistaken.
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To finish with a compliment, you're one of the few people here who has
admitted from time to time that you were wrong.

"Our tricycle rider has a strong tendency to do that with any
information source other than his own imagination. He proudly says or
implies that no outside sources can be trusted, and that he alone can
tell what facts are real and true."

I'm like many people and decide for myself "what facts are real and
true" for me.

You, on the other hand, believe whatever the people you've chosen to
tell you what to believe.

You'd very much like to be one of those people that others choose to
tell them what to do, but you're not, you never were, and you never
will be. 

--
C'est bon
Soloman