Re: Ove Interest?

On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:39:28 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 2/16/2025 9:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/16/2025 8:34 PM, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:17:39 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:48:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
I know you love guns, but what I've posted are the
facts. You should be
able to love guns while understanding that their value
is highly overrated.

>
"The data is clear that their assumption is false. The
people with
guns in the house are _more_ likely to suffer serious
violence, and
that's true no matter where they live."  ...

>
I suspect that if you were to study all cases of someone
murdering
another person in the same household you will find many
cases where a
gun was used. However that doesn't mean that it is the gun
that is at
fault.

 
I did not say "the gun was at fault." I said those in houses
with guns are more likely to suffer serious violence than
those in houses without guns, no matter where they live. I
don't blame the gun. I blame the people owning and/or using
the gun. But nevertheless, those who got the gun "for
protection" tend to come out worse.
 

In short, the statement that a gun in the house is
dangerious is just
what the "Anti Gunners" want to hear and so they repeat it
over and
over and over.

 
OK, John, if you were a researcher, what data would you use
to answer this question:
 
Are people living in a house with a gun safer or more at
more danger than people living in a house with no gun?
 
Remember, to a researcher, tales of your childhood don't
count as research. Neither do your strongly held opinions.
You need good data.
 
(I suspect you'll evade answering my question.)
 
 

>
Well, since there are many times more successful firearm
defense incidents than firearm homicides I'd say your
conclusion is unclear at best.

Given that Frank now derides personal memory and experiences it goes
without saying that his posts  will only be made where proof, i.e.,
independent data, is available to prove his assertions.
--
Cheers,

John B.