Re: Ove Interest?

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 2/17/2025 3:10 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 2/17/2025 2:20 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/17/2025 11:43 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

 
Opportunity is certainly seems to have a effect, on the
whole places with
restrictions on weapons have less use of them, it’s
certainly not a hard
concept to understand or equally can see it around the world.

 
:-)  "Places with restrictions on weapons have less use of
them" is _very_ hard for some people to understand!
 

This said your neighbours to the North who seem to have
very broadly
similar set in terms of general set up, seem to do much
less killing of
each other so unlikely Frank I’m unconvinced it’s the
whole thing, clearly
if one has less access but unless I’m mistaken the
Canadian have guns maybe
not as many but guns are about but they don’t have the
levels of gun
violence that the US does.

 
Canadians average about 37 guns per 100 citizens. Americans
average about 120 guns per 100 citizens. And Canada
restricts gun types. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Firearms_regulation_in_Canada
 
Yes, some people in both nations are hunters, farmers, etc.
with rational and practical reasons for owning guns. Some
are target shooting hobbyists. But the U.S. dominates in the
number of people who are so afraid that they feel they
_must_ have a gun for "protection."
 
Despite the paucity of guns intended for "protection,"
Canadians don't seem to suffer from hordes of bad guys
beating down front doors of homes. And I've not read of
Canadian bike path users suffering from vicious attacks -
although I suppose anything is possible!
 
 

 
Not only Canada vs US for numbers.
 
Speaking of cultural differences, Wisconsin has about
average (among US States) firearms regulation with 6 million
humans and about 315 firearm homicides per year.
 
City of Chicago, with among the most restrictive regulation
in the country (even yet, in defiance of a specific Supreme
Court ruling) is 2,665,000 people and suffers 550~650
firearm homicides per year.
 

 
Looks like it has a grandfathers clause ie if you have a prohibited gun you
can keep it but you can’t get any more?
 
That’s not particularly restrictive really, and will take time for such
guns to go out of circulation? Since they can be repaired that’s going to
be a long process!
 
But I guess has to start somewhere? I’d suggest if one was to use bike lane
analogy’s this is in the magic paint sort of place, ie it’s something and
might pave way for more in the future and all that.
 
Roger Merriman
 

 
There are no 'grandfather' exemptions:
 
https://www.thetrace.org/2023/02/illinois-gun-laws-chicago-shootings/
 
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/illinois/
 
 

Link suggest that is the case (and I think it was the Illinois police
department link I found) and reading ie folks can keep guns on the
prohibition list but need to register it but they can keep the guns and
repair them, but can’t buy any more of the prohibited type.

Roger Merriman