Re: Ove Interest?

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Sujet : Re: Ove Interest?
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 18. Feb 2025, 03:22:02
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On 2/17/2025 9:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/17/2025 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/17/2025 3:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 2/17/2025 2:20 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 2/17/2025 11:43 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
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Despite the paucity of guns intended for "protection," Canadians don't seem to suffer from hordes of bad guys beating down front doors of homes. And I've not read of Canadian bike path users suffering from vicious attacks - although I suppose anything is possible!
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Right and as noted by Mr Tricycle (and others here over the years) Canada enjoys much smaller rates of crime and especially violent crime overall. Different culture, different population densities, etc.  Mexico conversely has even more restrictive firearms regulation than Canada, and those statutes are many times older, and yet violent crime and especially homicide by firearm are radically higher in Mexico. Different culture with many differences, not only regarding homicide.
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Mexico is famous for its relatively weak government, its drug cartels and their control over various levels of government, its massive illegal importation of American guns, its income inequality, its lack of legal income opportunities, etc. Yes, there are many factors, but prevalence of guns is absolutely a big contributor to their problems. (How much power would the cartels have without guns?)
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Of the factors I listed, note how many apply to young American guys living in inner city ghettos. The situation is much the same. And of course, in the U.S. efforts to (e.g.) reduce income inequality get blasted as "socialism," and efforts to restrict the flow of guns are blasted as "unconstitutional." But without the guns, the murder rate would have to be much lower. It's a fact that one gang can't quickly kill four of the opposing gang just by using clubs and knives. It's just not practical.
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Canadians can and do get the guns they need for legitimate uses. The restrictions are no great burden on them. And partly because their criminal types have much more trouble getting and keeping guns, ordinary citizens don't feel the need to nurture Quick Draw fantasies.
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 Odd you mention socialism. Mexico wrote the world's first socialist Constitution.  How's that going for the first 100 years? Any positive results yet?
:-)  Ah! A change in topic!
It seems that "socialism," however you define it, doesn't work as well in Mexico as it does in, say, Norway, Netherlands, Finland, France, Germany, Canada, etc. etc. etc.
But by many measures, those countries work at least as well as the U.S.
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- Frank Krygowski

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