Re: Machine Shop

On 22 Feb 2025 22:27:53 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:04:15 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 

On Fri Nov 8 13:54:21 2024 Zen Cycle  wrote:

On 11/8/2024 12:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:

 
No company could survive you and a boss that spots you not working and
does say anything about it.

 
Who ever said my boss caught me not working?

 

You did asshole - you said that you were watching baseball and your boss
came around and asked what the score was - not that he asked why you
weren't working. I never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full
attention to your job.

 
Having the boss monitor you with a stopwatch is characteristic of a
job where you are paid by the millisecond.  That sometimes works with
hourly employees.  However, it doesn't apply to salaried professional
or exempt employees who are more commonly paid by the job and not by
the millisecond:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/exempt-employee.asp>
If you "never worked one job where a boss didn't demand full
attention", you were likely NOT receiving a salary and working as an
exempt employee, professional, manager, executive, or consultant.
 
I also find it odd the you wrote "a boss" instead of "my boss" or "my
manager".  Hourly employees might have one of more managers.  Salaried
professionals usually have a single manager, even if you worked for a
committee.
 
At one company, the chief engineer would walk around the lab and
remark "am I paying you for this" if he saw anyone doing something he
considered not job related.  Eventually, he was asked by the other
managers to stop doing that because it was highly disruptive and
usually resulted in work coming to a screeching halt.
 
 

Even paid hourly if one is competent and job is complex might well be down
times waiting for something or someone to start/finish and so would have
flexibility aka time to and opportunity to do personal things or simply
have tea break/chat or whatever.
>
Only be stopwatches etc on fairly menial repetitive jobs.
>
Roger Merriman

Way back when, I was running a Machine Shop in the
Air Force, during one inspection they counted my workers to see
whether personnel was being used effectively. Disregarding the 2 or 3
out working on airplanes I had two working on various machines and one
guy sitting reading a book.

After the inspection the Maintenance Officer got onto me about shop
management and I explained that the two guys running machines were
working on "home jobs", i.e. work for themselves, as we had only one
outstanding work order, and the guy reading the book was reading the
Machinerys Handbook
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinery%27s_Handbook)
to figure just how he was going to do that rather complex job.
--
Cheers,

John B.